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I remember when it was so cold out that my car overheated in the winter because all of the coolant (rated to below zero Fahrenheit), froze. Now, I'm damn near blasting the AC in winter because it's so damn warm.
Come change is happening. IDK how much more proof people really need... The argument of winter still being cold isn't applicable anymore.
Yeah, it was crazy how warm last winter was. I live in Edmonton which is the most northern city with 1 million people in North America, and even through December we would have no snow on the ground when regularly there would be a couple inches to a foot everywhere.
The weather is also much more sporadic than I ever remember it being which is fun. It's either unusually warm or stupidly cold. We had only about a week of really cold weather and heavy snow last winter
I live in a place that was known for its (less than Minnesota) horrible Winter, and growing up I remember blizzards and at least a foot of snow each Winter.
My city doesn't have Winter anymore really. We don't have snow either. I miss the Winter.
The more reasonable people against many climate change response policies are skeptical of:
I get what you're saying here and bluntly, those people are not scientists. If you neither want to go and earn the knowledge necessary to be an authority on the subject, nor listen to those that are, then maybe you should shut the fuck up.
I'll be fair in saying that CO2 is not the only contributor to global climate change. The environment is a complex intermingling of a lot of different influences. With that said, this is something we know for a fact, at the very least, does not help. Alternatives exist for almost every case. Why stick with the "clearly not helping" method, than going with the "at least we're trying" alternative?
Disclaimer, I haven't earned the title of expert in the subject, I just try to listen to those who have earned that title. I am not nearly as up to date on the subject as some others, so I invite someone to expand and/or correct any of my statements who knows the material better than me. Such is the scientific method. Lively discussion and debate culminating in studies and tests to determine who is wrong... (Spoiler, sometimes everyone is wrong)
Regardless, IMO, anyone denying a change based on the stated reasons, is trying to serve their own interests. Whether that's enabling them to contribute to make poor decisions, or maybe they have something to gain by trying to block any progress away from fossil fuels. Maybe they own stock in a petrol company. Who knows?
To me, it's just a bad faith argument.
I’ll have to look up the names, but those people are literally climate scientists. I’ve heard them interviewed.
I’ll read the rest of your comment later when I have more time but if that’s your starting assumption you can just reconsider your whole position now because the things I reported came from the mouths of scientists.