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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Mercurial does have a few things going for it, though for most use-cases it's behind Git in almost all metrics.

I really do like the fact that it keeps a commit number counter, it's a lot easier to know if "commit 405572" is newer than "commit 405488" after all, instead of Git's "commit ea43f56" vs "commit ab446f1". (Though Git does have the describe format, which helps somewhat in this regard. E.g. "0.95b-4204-g1e97859fb" being the 4204th commit after tag 0.95b)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I suspect rebasing makes sequential commit IDs not really work in practice.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Rebasing updates the commit ids. It's fine. Commit IDs are only local anyway.

One thing that makes mercurial better for rebase based flows is obsolescence markers. The old version of the commits still exist after a rebases and are marked as being made obsolete by the new commits. This means somebody you've shared those old commits with isn't left in hyperspace when they fetch your new commits. There's history about what happened being shared.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Commit IDs are only local anyway.

Whay do you mean by that?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You and I both clone a repo with ten changes in it. We each make a new commit. Both systems will call it commit 11. If I pull your change into my repo your 11 becomes my 12.

The sequential change IDs are only consistent locally.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Got it! Are they renumbered chronologically? Like if my 11 was created before your 11, would yours be the one that's renumbered?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

No. They are not renumbered. Your 11 is always the same commit. It's consistent locally (which is what I mean by "local only") otherwise they'd change under your feet. You just can't share them with others and expect the same results. You have to use the hash for that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's exactly the same in git. The old commits are still there, they just don't show up in git log because nothing points to them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Old, unreachable commits will be garbage collected.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Does that not happen with Mercurial? If not that seems like a point against it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm confused, the behavior you just said was "exactly the same in git" is now a problem for Mercurial?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I thought it was exactly the same based on the description.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

No the old commit is always there, marked as obsolete with the information of what it became. No holes in history. (Assuming you use the obsolecense markers)