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[–] Maggoty -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

See, you had a good argument and then you veered into martyrdom ideology. At any rate there's plenty of weapons you can use to defend yourself that aren't semi-automatic rifles with external magazines. Like Semi Automatic rifles with internal clips, or revolver rifles, or shotguns, or semi-automatic pistols in a brace, or baseball bats and 50 good friends, or a nice bit of Tannerite buried on the driveway with steel balls imbedded in it. The list goes on.

[–] Olhonestjim 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You're right, it's stupid and immoral to use the best tools for the job. The right thing to do under tyranny is to hobble your ability to fight.

[–] Maggoty -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No the right thing to do is to not have the fight in the first place because we all actually got our shit together. Having the fight at all is a failure that's at least as likely to balkanize this country as it is to result in one side winning.

[–] Olhonestjim 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Fantastic! I'm glad you have figured out how to change the minds of fascists, as a pacifist. Please hurry, we are short on time.

[–] Maggoty -3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

When you look at polling and history it's obvious that most people, even most people voting for Trump aren't fascists. They simply don't believe Trump is actually that bad. The mission is not to give a flower to a fascist. It's to get photographed doing so in order to show everyone else the picture.

[–] Olhonestjim 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Maggoty -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well why wait then? If they're just the good Germans why aren't you already blowing things up? After all that means you're the French resistance right?

[–] Olhonestjim 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You don't even know what the good Germans were, do you?

They were people who thought that Hitler wasn't really all that bad. They were just nice people who didn't want to cause a fuss.

[–] Maggoty -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Lmao. And referencing the French resistance made you think I wasn't aware?

We can't just ignore Trump's voters.

[–] Olhonestjim 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What the fuck are you even talking about?

[–] Maggoty -2 points 4 months ago

Actually avoiding the worst case scenario. Keeping our democracy and not having a dictator.