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Thailand’s prime minister said Monday that eligible businesses and individuals can register from August for digital cash handouts, a controversial program that will cost billions of dollars and is meant to boost the lagging economy.

The government announced in April the widely criticized ambitious plan, named the Digital Wallet, meant to give 10,000 baht (about $275) to 50 million citizens in digital money to spend at local businesses.

However, economists have criticized the program, calling it an ineffective way to contribute to sustainable economic growth compared to other measures.

Thailand has in recent years suffered from a sluggish economy that appears to have deteriorated with no clear sign of growth. This month, the World Bank’s Thailand Economic Monitor projected GDP growth of 2.4% for the year 2024.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Why a single stimulus? why not a Universal Basic Income? Doesn't the world is in recession because of US covid stimulus?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Step by step, capitalism too stronk.

But hopefully very soon.

[–] scarabic 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My fear about UBI over the long term is that it will just get baked into prices and stop having a beneficial effect. Basically inflation. Inflation is what happens when money is devalued. And if everybody suddenly all have this magic same amount of money dropped out of the sky, who’s to say that anything fundamental in society will change? All the basic supplies and demands will still be there, so will there just be slightly different digits on all the price tags? What does that solve? Anyway, you shouldn’t expect a government to go STRAIGHT to UBI without some shorter term one-time stimulus experiments. So let’s hope it goes well and inspires more experimentation instead of saying hey stupid why didn’t you make it permanent? There are some obvious questions about how that would go.

[–] Viking_Hippie 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My fear about UBI over the long term is that it will just get baked into prices

That's why UBI alone would ultimately not help much, but UBI and price controls would be EXTREMELY helpful, especially to those struggling the most.

money dropped out of the sky

This is basically what most money is already. Difference with UBI is that a certain amount is guaranteed to go to everyone to create a financial floor, rather than almost all of it going to the 10% that exploit the other 90%

who’s to say that anything fundamental in society will change?

With UBI and price controls combined? Unless the UBI amount is too small or the price controls are too lax, it literally can't NOT fundamentally change a society where the majority is struggling to get by.

All the basic supplies and demands will still be there

Except there's TONS of market forces beyond just the basics, including ones that artificially deflate income and inflate prices. UBI combined with price controls would undoubtedly change the entire landscape for the better for the struggling majority as well as those of the rich whose income is at all connected to open commerce rather than just the stock market casino.

Anyway, you shouldn’t expect a government to go STRAIGHT to UBI without some shorter term one-time stimulus experiments

Except for the fact that such incrementalism has been shown again and again to take one or two insufficient steps in the right direction before being rolled back by opposing forces.

When it comes to transformative change, half or quarter measures and onetime tests just don't work.

[–] scarabic -2 points 3 months ago

And sweeping comprehensive permanent changes “work?” Do we have a single practical example of UBI + price controls?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do you really think a south East Asian country is going to be the first in the world to roll out UBI?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Easily. They actually make things.

You just need to make it tax supported instead of a money printer.