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MEGA THREAD - Trump shot but safe, 2 others killed at PA rally (self.news)

submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by JonsJava to c/news

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WHAT

Former U.S. President Donald J. Trump was shot at a rally in PA.

TRUMPS STATEMENT

“I want to thank The United States Secret Service, and all of Law Enforcement, for their rapid response on the shooting that just took place in Butler, Pennsylvania. Most importantly, I want to extend my condolences to the family of the person at the Rally who was killed, and also to the family of another person that was badly injured. It is incredible that such an act can take place in our Country. Nothing is known at this time about the shooter, who is now dead. I was shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear. I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin. Much bleeding took place, so I realized then what was happening. GOD BLESS AMERICA!”

WHAT WE THINK WE KNOW SO FAR

gunman is dead
Trump "is fine"
one attendee is dead
another attendee is in critical condition

News Sources

CNN - Trump rushed off stage after shooting at Pennsylvania rally
AP News - Live updates: Shooting at Trump rally is being investigated as assassination attempt, AP sources say
The Hill - George W. Bush condemns ‘cowardly attack’ at Trump rally
Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) on Xitter - video interview with witness who tried to warn police before shooting happened
Sky News - Gunshots reportedly fired at Donald Trump rally - as former president rushed off stage (Article confirms one rally attendee dead)
Reuters - Biden says he is grateful to hear Trump is safe, has been briefed on shooting
OAlexanderDK on Xitter - The shooter was on a roof approximately 125m or 400ft from where Trump was standing.
JakeMRosen on Xitter - An emergency room doctor I spoke with tried to save someone’s life in the crowd

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There is a difference between background-level bulk sniffing and someone-here-maybe-incited-violence targeted sniffing. The former is data collection, which is passive in the form practiced by “the feds”. The latter is data connection, putting effort into connecting a subset of the data that has been collected to form a story. Data connections need a framing, a nucleation seed, an impetus for why the feds might think such a connection is interesting or relevant or worth adding to their story about a larger incident. Collecting data is cheap and done in bulk, partly because it can be done passively and partly because the US govt paid a lot of money on storage and collection mechanisms. Connecting data is something that requires a lot more time, effort, patience, and vetting to make sure you are doing it right.

Or you can give the job to generative AI and hope it doesn’t hallucinate that someone innocent is guilty; with a large enough data pool (ie the internet, reality, what-have-you) it’s possible to select a misleading subset to support whatever hallucination you want.

It’s easy to do wrong, which is exactly why you don’t want the feds sniffing around. Especially now that they have the tools to automate doing it wrong, and might not know how to use them yet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

yeah obviously, but it's all the same at the end of the day. And they definitely have people actively sniffing around social media posts surrounding this at the moment.