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Yeah they're different. Israel killed many times more civilians in a fraction of the time.
The numbers are iffy, but yes, it's about 4x as many civilians killed in Gaza as Ukraine:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine#Casualties
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war
The difference being the IDF lying about why they destroyed a hospital and Russia lying about whether they were the ones who destroyed a hospital?
First, that article is paywalled and the subheading just says that US intelligence confirms a suspicion. US intelligence also said Iraq had WMDs so they aren't that reliable.
The IDF entering the hospital is a different thing from the complete distruction of the hospital and all of the other hospitals they have destroyed in Gaza. Or all of the other infrastructure they have destroyed, always claiming it was used by Hamas.
The IDF has also lied multiple times about not killing the journalists they have killed. Or the aid convoys they attacked directly despite the IDF knowing they would be trainsporting aid.
They are lying liars and claiming anything is 'used by Hamas' should be immediately suspect.
The article is from January and is speculation. I can't find an article that says they did find a command bunker and network of tunnels, just a couple about finding a few weapons and communication items plus one unexplored tunnel.
Do you know of a more recent article that confirms there was a command bunker and network of tunnels? It has been 7 months and they spent the time destroying the rest of the hospital so surely there is something confirming that it was a Hamas command bunker and not just stuff left by soldiers who went to a hospital for medical care.
First, connecting a tunnel to a building doesn't make the building itself the same thing as whatever the tunnel connects to. By that logic, having a road to a hospital from a military baes makes the hospitsl a valid target.
I didn't watch the full video, but it sure looked like a long service tunnel, which tons of buildings have. Nothing that justifying destroying an entire hospital complex after they cleared it. Is the IDF unable to close a single tunnel going into a hospital?
Not to mention the part in bold from the article (found out I can get to the text at least through reader mode).
Yup, justifying destroying the entire hospital complex because one tunnel connects to a shack outside the main buildings. Really proving your point there!
Your link is talking about confessions obtained by Shin Bet...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interrogation_of_militants_in_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war#Forced_confession_and_torture_allegations
They torture to get their confessions, which makes everything they report worthless.
Even if they didn't torture one person, their reputation for torture means people are likely to feel an implicit threat.
Have fun parroting talking points justifying genocide.
Recognizing the difference between a hospital which was being used for military purposes by the enemy and a hospital which is simply a hospital is not justifying genocide.