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Third Avenue Bridge, which connects New York's the Bronx to Manhattan, got stuck in an open position due to the high heat on Monday.

FDNY officers arrived in boats and fired water at the structure to try and cool down the metal, which expanded after high temperatures in the city, officials say.

The incident caused major traffic delays during one of the hottest days of the year in New York but reopened on the same day.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's a good question. Steel is very good at absorbing and retaining heat. Water on the other hand isn't. Metals in general have way better thermal conductivity than water.

Exposed to the sun at the same time, a piece of metal will warm up a few times faster than the water. I believe steels can be somewhere around 8-10 times less energy required than to heat a similar mass of water.

The water could even start out slightly warmer than the bridge. Evaporative cooling would also work here since there is plenty of ventilation around the bridge. But that can slow down based upon humidity level.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Because metals have way better thermal conductivity, they aren't good at retaining heat.

Heating equal masses of steel and water the same amount takes exactly the same energy, it just might take longer for the insulator vs. the conductor.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Specific heat of liquid water is around 4. Steel is like .45-.50 or around there. So it would take 450-500 joules to increase 1kg of steel 1C. Would take around 4k joules to increase 1kg of water by 1C.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Isn't your wording on the previous post a bit wrong? Metal isn't good at retaining heat, quite the opposite but it is a lot easier to heat it up in terms on temperature causing the issue in question. The issue isn't that it is retaining heat but the temperature raising quicker as environment gets hotter.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I should have added "compared to the air around it" because that's what I was thinking in my head.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I entirely forgot about specific heat. I am an idiot.