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[–] Maggoty 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This isn't the example you want. Candidates from two other parties stepped aside to change the election math. This isn't the polls being wrong, it's people who care about the country listening to the polls and doing what they have to do in order to stop the bad guys. The analogy here would be Biden withdrawing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Alright if there was a further left party that would take over for Joe Biden that would absolutely be the move.

The issue with Joe Biden dropping out is there's no one really to replace him other than Kamala. Conservatives don't want her because they're racists, leftists don't want her because she's a fucking cop.

[–] yrmp 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

And what happens if Joe dies in his sleep before election day? No one is talking about this as a liability but given the speed of his cognitive decline and the stress of the job and schedule, why is it outside the realm of possibility? Trump will of course live to be 180 years old since he’s literally a conglomerate of McDonalds microplastics and literally one of the worst pieces of shit to walk the earth in the post modern era. Why would anyone want Trump over Kamala outside of being an impotent right wing Russia cuck?

Kamala sucks but she’s the contingency plan. She’s part of his admin that passed the IRA, CHIPS, etc. and trying to put forth executive action that would seemingly be beneficial for the American people. Presumably she’d continue many of the same policies as her predecessor. There is no perfect candidate in a FPTP two-party system.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

My point was less Kamala sucks, and more people probably want to vote for her even less than they do Joe Biden.

Its kind of telling when he talks about dropping out the first name everyone talks about is Sanders instead of Harris. Despite how unfortunately far fetched the idea is.

[–] jj4211 1 points 4 months ago

Think the point is that there's no good option known and an overly short runway to build momentum, and the likely option would be Harris, and she's already the default option.

Instead of "Biden should step aside", the calls should be more specific in what they affirmatively do want.

Same with rhetoric about "just any third party", that's so vague that no one should want that, as third parties are very different and in opposition to each other.

So calls for 'not Biden' or 'just any third party' are utterly useless except for screwing up chances for a D win, without any particular actionable agenda being advocated for.

[–] Maggoty 1 points 4 months ago

In the US it doesn't have to be another party. The Democrats could nominate Jesus the Pug at the convention if they wanted to.