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The Spanish government has a plan to prevent kids from watching porn online: Meet the porn passport.

Officially (and drily) called the Digital Wallet Beta (Cartera Digital Beta), the app Madrid unveiled on Monday would allow internet platforms to check whether a prospective smut-watcher is over 18. Porn-viewers will be asked to use the app to verify their age. Once verified, they'll receive 30 generated “porn credits” with a one-month validity granting them access to adult content. Enthusiasts will be able to request extra credits.

You have to request more porn credits from the government if you need more? Don't want the government to be tracking this data of you. This is a privacy issue

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[–] thefrankring 16 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Porn is everywhere. It's an endless battle.

The internet should simply be 18+ only at this point.

[–] repungnant_canary 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I strongly disagree. The porn is a huge issue, but there are a lot of actually useful websites where kids and teens can learn about their interests. Gatekeeping all that knowledge would make young people significantly less knowledgeable

[–] ocassionallyaduck 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Unironically: child safe websites should be under a separate DNS provider from your ISP, provided via a separate ISP router or modem. Setup a separate national level routing.

Seriously. Kids get curated internet only, adults get the firehose.

The idea of porn credits and voluntarily giving the government a list of everything you look at is utter insanity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

While I also like the idea of a separate second "internet" I feel like this is just another ID check requirement. It would still be better than a porn token wallet I guess. Either there would be an identity tied to all traffic from an access point(still a privacy problem) , or the access points themselves would have to be like, kept away from children or something somehow. Parental locks?

[–] ocassionallyaduck 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Make the children internet token based for kids, use a yubikey or something (no password to learn), and leave the regular internet as is. Make ISPs provide families with kids access to both, either via subnet or dedicated hardware.

From there just have policy to not give the unrestricted network access to kids. Aka parenting. Public institutions like libraries can have most open terminals on the "safenet" and limited public access to the unfiltered net.

For a "poor man's version" of this concept, you could do a pi-hole sub-network for home use, but the internet elsewhere is still the internet.

That's one possible idea anyways, and a damn sight better than porn credits.

[–] TheClockStruck13 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

LMAO, there’s a thing called a Firewall right, PiHole, get one, set it up at home, link the mobile devices through it for proxy or DNS…. Boom, your kids now can’t use the internet for porn or any other unscrupulous reason.

[–] ocassionallyaduck 1 points 4 months ago

Yea, that's what I was saying. But if you wanted a national level of this, having ISPs setup a "kid access" subnet that just runs on a separate Wifi SSID would make this idea easier for the non tech savvy.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's no way to enforce that outside of parental Intervention, which won't happen.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

So school shut be 18+ as well then? The best teacher is the Internet for just about anything. If it is info about how to garden or how to setup networking gear. The internet has it.