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Tons. There's an entire roguelike genre built around this; some of my favorites are Vagante and Streets of Rogue. There are games with procedurally generated worlds like Terraria, RimWorld, Dwarf Fortress, and Factorio. There are RPGs like Baldur's Gate 3 that have so many ways to spec your characters and so many permutations of how events could unfold based on what you did that you're unlikely to see them all.
Another great roguelike is Hades, which may or may not have dominated my video game attention for the last 8 months.
I didn't personally care for it, but I know I'm in the minority. In fact, one of the reasons I didn't care for it is because it felt far less replayable than many of its peers. Even Zagreus will call out "the butterfly room", because there are so few permutations to see.
Hrm, you're not wrong but Hades also exemplifies why quality wins over quantity when in replayability.
I'm sure it would if I thought more highly of it.
Lmao I love Hades but this is such a sick burn, I'm stealing it for next time someone tries to convince me some shlocky k-drama is peak kino.
I do hope Hades 2 ups the variability of the encounters more, you're absolutely right about endgame being a bit weak for a roguelike, even with the different weapons.
Tossing Song of Syx onto the pile of games. Even if you don't care for the art style, the game is immensely deep, and quite frankly, addictive.
Any good tutorial videos you'd recommend?
If you don’t mind his particular style, the SsethTzeentach video is what convinced me to give it a fair shake. The in-game tutorial and tooltips are pretty good though, and will get you started. Overtime you’ll discover more and more systems. Oh and just so you know, the demo is the full game, but a version behind.
+1 for Factorio.
At one point I was playing so much Factorio that I started seeing conveyor belts and assembly machines in my sleep
If I had to choose a single game to play for the rest of time, it would be Dwarf Fortress. There's just so much variety in its world generation and how the game can be played that if I was limited to just that one game, I would still have things to do.
And the awesome part of DF is that each time you start over (on the same world) you just add more to its history and the story continues. Losing is definitely fun when keeping that in mind.
Back in the day I played Hack until I noticed the sun had risen many times.
Three of my favorite roguelikes are cataclysm dda, caves of qud and cogmind, recommend them to everyone
Have you checked out Tales of Maj'Eyal (tome)? Very highly praised roguelike, and lots of reviews consider it the roguelike.
What's the hook to each one? I hear people mention Caves of Qud a lot, but the low-fi graphics aren't grabbing my attention on their own.
All of these are classic roguelikes, a genre of games which frequently aren't much to look at. The tradeoff for the looks is that they offer vast depth and complexity... and (usually) permadeath and a learning curve that's more of a cliff. I recommend watching some yt videos about any roguelike you want to learn more about, just so a fan can explain the appeal and show off all the basics.
That said:
Caves of Qud - actually one of the prettier classic roguelikes, if you can belive it. You're a traveller in a strange and unique world of vast salt deserts, jungles, and the titular caves. There is a ton of flavorful, semi-randomly generated history (especially the ever-important tales of the sultans) and cultures, so every run feels different. There is technically a main plot, but you can just ignore it and go exploring - it's a sandbox experience. The best parts, to me, are the aforementioned flavour, the tactical combat (that can get incredibly chaotic, with screen-warping effects going off every turn), the build diversity, and delving too greedily and too deeply into the caves.
Cogmind - haven't played this one, but it's on a list. You're a robot. You're building yourself from parts as you go, fighting other robots and stealing their parts.
CDDA - one of my faves, but definitely not something I'd recommend as an intro to this genre. You're a survivor in a zombie apocalypse. Go do things and don't get bitten. It's a sandbox - survive as long as you can, achieve a self-set goal. The distinguishing feature of CDDA is how realistic it tries to be - crafting is very complex, you need to track your thirst, nutrition, and sleep, you can easily get sick or get your arm broken, the zombies can track you by sight, noise, and lingering scent... My favourite part is surviving long enough to build elaborate apocalypse death mobiles, Mad Max style.
Traditional roguelikes may frequently pair with bad graphics, but it's not a requirement. There are games like Tangledeep and Jupiter Hell, for instance. But thanks, these sound interesting.
If you want a bit better graphics I'd recommend you check out Tales of Maj'Eyal (ToME for short). It is on steam but the game is open-source and can be downloaded for free on its website.