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Proton launches privacy-focused Google Docs alternative: Docs in Proton Drive is an open-source, end-to-end encrypted collaborative document editor (proton.me)

submitted 5 months ago by ForgottenFlux to c/technology

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[–] brochard 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure what you're talking about ? You're not sending your private key to their server without first encrypting it first locally. Their servers are not doing the E2EE, your client is. The website front and apps are open source.

Yes they could send you a compromised front if you use it via their website, that's a compromise you accept, otherwhise you could only use their apps which are open source.

[+] timewarp -10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Tell me.. when you visit a website that gets updated daily, if not hourly. If it served you a different version of JavaScript than what it served someone else.. would you know?

[–] brochard 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I already answered that. Yes you can't trust a website's content, that's why they offer apps. It's your choice to trust the website which is as secure as they can make it, or you simply use the apps...

[–] timewarp 0 points 5 months ago

How does a WebView wrapped app offer much more security than a website? Why do they require a paid subscription to use the desktop apps?

[–] timewarp -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Last I checked the apps are mostly just wrappers around WebView, so either way you're getting served different content randomly without ever knowing. AND, Proton specifically prevents the desktop apps from functioning on unpaid accounts. That would be like Gmail disabling IMAP for unpaid users.

[–] brochard 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's not how electron apps works. When you load a website with your web browser you get served the front and execute it. When you have an electron app, the front is in the source code of the app, and you decide when to update it so you don't get served unexpected compromised updates. As for the paid service : They don't sell your data and don't show you ads so they need money, it's that simple.

[–] nieminen 1 points 5 months ago

For real, if it's a useful product, and it's free, then YOU'RE the product.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Ain't this a website issue? Or is somebody doing it better?

No JavaScript?