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Today, before taking an Uber home, she sent me a text wanting me to be downstairs on the street to greet her as the Uber arrives. I read it and told her that yes, I'll be there. I didn't notice any further text because I was in the middle of something.

Later, I hear the door opening and went to our door to greet her, she was furious and refused to talk to me. I realized I forgot to turn my phone back from silent mode after work today. I told her that it is my bad, she still refused to talk to me. At this point, things are still normal for our relationship, she would usually become willing to talk after a while.

I usually go to sleep at 22:30 and she knows, so I thought we'd sort things out tomorrow and went to bed. I woke up in the middle of the night (later I found out it was 1a.m.) to her standing next to my bed (we sleep in separate bedrooms), and she began asking a series of pointed questions: "What would you do if you found out that I was gone?", "What would you do if the CCTV on our street is broken by chance?", "What would you tell my mother if I went missing?", "If I was actually kidnapped, would you kill the guy for me?"

You know, the usual. I thought she's just angry at me still and wanted to vent, so I went along with her for the time being: "I'd be very worried and look for you everywhere", "I'd sue the city", "I'd tell your mother exactly what happened and say I'm sorry", and "I'd kill the guy who kidnapped you".

She grumbled and asked a few follow-up questions, like "if you're planning to kill the guy, what would you do with our cat?" But at this point, I think she's finding it difficult to stay angry at me. I tell her again that I'm sorry I missed her text, and that next time this happens, she should just call me to make sure I see her text, but she left soon after without acknowledging my apology.

I know I'm in the wrong for missing her text. Not trying to argue otherwise. My question is, am I really responsible if someone kidnaps her between getting off the Uber and getting into our apartment complex? Is she trying to guilt trip me into thinking her anger is justified or am I really a horrible, kidnap-facilitating bad person for missing a few texts?

Edit for context: we live in a pretty safe city that ranks top 10 in the world on low crime rate. Also, thank you all for educating me on what gaslighting actually means. It was 2 in the morning when I posted this, I did not have the energy to find the answer myself.

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it's gaslighting. Gaslighting is manipulating someone into questioning their perception of reality. This is being angry at someone.

I can't really relate. Is it really that dangerous where you live? We probably live in different countries but I don't have CCTV in the residential area where I live. And usually in the summer, it's still bright enough at 10pm an people are still around and it's safe enough for women to walk home alone. At least in most places.

[–] RyanLiu 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

It's pretty safe where we live afaik, also CCTV is everywhere here especially in and around the big cities.

[–] Brunbrun6766 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I get that you're trying to get more info to help OP out better, but I think that it's better to drop this "where are you from?" talk. Privacy-wise it's rather problematic, you know? [Sorry for the uncalled advice.]

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Asking someone their country of residence is privacy intruding? Lol

In the strictest sense perhaps, but I dont think a criminal could make something of the knowledge that I am from Germany.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

As a wise man once said, "just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that they aren't after you." Oh wait, that was Kurt Cobain, not a wise man.

Jokes aside, don't assume that a piece of info about someone else is fine to share, because it is for you. OP likely has their reasons and that's to be respected. (NB: this is coming from someone who doesn't mind even sharing their city online.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Asking someone their country of residence is privacy intruding? Lol

I am from Germany

If you were really from Germany, you'd never have given that much personal information up voluntarily!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Eh, at best you could create a shadow profile of me. I scrubbed the internet of my actual identity years ago, but you could probably piece together a semi accurate john doe of me from various bits of information I shared on here over the time.

[–] Brunbrun6766 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Lmao it was a joke because London is known for their extremely extensive CCTV network

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Then I derped. My bad!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

U ain't wrong...

While info is useful, it ain't worth breaking opsec for it

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

OP gave some clues, though. I think the comment with "London" was meant to be a joke. But it's true that this kind of surveillance is common in Britain, some parts of Asia and some random big cities. And OP knows how to write the time of the day properly, so they're certainly not from the USA. 😉

[–] RyanLiu 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Haha, our city has a much lower crim rate than London actually.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yeah, sometimes perceived reality and the real reality are two things. And there are places where you can't walk on the streets as a woman. I'm not sure if it's about fear in your case. Or just because you broke your promise but there isn't any fear involved.

Anyways, in relationships general advice is to talk to each other. Ask her what's bothering her. Maybe it's a pretend reason and there is something deeper that's bothering her. Maybe this was the proper reason. Maybe she's a resentful person. Maybe she just had a bad day.

Unless it happens regularly or there are other factors to it, I wouldn't necessarily attribute it to malice or be a manipulation strategy...