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Supreme Court weakens federal regulators with Chevron overturning, threatening net neutrality, right to repair, big tech regulation, and more (www.theverge.com)
submitted 5 months ago by ForgottenFlux to c/technology
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The downfall of Chevron deference could completely change the ways courts review net neutrality, according to Bloomberg Intelligence’s Matt Schettenhelm. “The FCC’s 2024 effort to reinstitute federal broadband regulation is the latest chapter in a long-running regulatory saga, yet we think the demise of deference will change its course in a fundamental way,” he wrote in a recent report. “This time, we don’t expect the FCC to prevail in court as it did in 2016.” Schettenhelm estimated an 80 percent chance of the FCC’s newest net neutrality order being blocked or overturned in the absence of Chevron deference.

Federal Trade Commission Chair Lina Khan has made no secret of her ambitions to use the agency’s authority to take bold action to restore competition to digital markets and protect consumers. But with Chevron being overturned amid a broader movement undermining agency authority without clear direction from Congress, Schettenhelm said, “it’s about the worst possible time for the FTC to be claiming novel rulemaking power to address unfair competition issues in a way that it never has before.”

Khan’s methods have drawn intense criticism from the business community, most recently with the agency’s labor-friendly rulemaking banning noncompete agreements in employment contracts. That action relies on the FTC’s interpretation of its authority to allow it to take action in this area — the kind of thing that brings up questions about agency deference.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’m sure you’ll be able to back this up with some facts.

You keep throwing shit out but don't back any of it up. Why would i continue to follow your ever shifting justifications?

If you actually think Sanders is the better candidate then you should agree that most normal people aren’t aware of why.

One thing i will address is this. I understand that everyone has differing priorities, desires for me, and opinions than me. Clinton would have been a perfectly fine POTUS, so it's not hard for me to accept that other people have a different opinion.

The question i originally addressed was whether the DNC screwed Sanders. There is no evidence that they did anything to him that would have overcome the shellacking he took.

[–] retrospectology -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I understand that everyone has differing priorities

And what, specifically, are those for Clinton? Protecting corporate oligarchy? What exactly do you believe Clinton truly offers to the average voter that Sanders does not?

The question i originally addressed was whether the DNC screwed Sanders. There is no evidence that they did anything to him that would have overcome the shellacking he took.

Yes, there is. He was painted as an "extremist" by the establishment, his supporters were repeatedly portrayed as "Bernie Bros" despite being a majority women in order to give the impression that his following has some kind of latent misogynist leanings (which Warren played on again in 2020 by lying about him saying that a woman can't be president). The party super delegates were allowed to pre-vote to give the impression Clinton had a greater lead than she really did. Primary debates between Sanders and Clinton were scheduled for times with the least viewership, he recieved very few interviews on major outlets and when he did it was almost always just some talking head aggressively criticizing his "extreme left wing" policies.

There was the email leak that demonstrated that there was hostility towards Sanders from within the DNC and that members were looking to help Clinton's campaign.

Do we not remember that it was concluded in court that the DNC chair, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, was working to sabotage Sanders. The court didnt deny the rigging was hapoening, it just decided it was ok to rig things against candidates because in its view the party can pick whatever candidates they want.

It's not a question of whether or not the DNC and their corporate media allies working to undermine the Sanders campaign, it's established, yes, they were. That's how public opinion is manufactured; by leveraging the media and party apparatus to create a false narrative to decieve voters and manipulate people's perception of who and what ideas are viable. Pretending there weren't powerful interests aligned against Sanders plays into that narrative.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure the facts don't matter to you, but I'll post it anyway just in case someone else comes in here and thinks your argument is rooted in reality:

"A 2018 book by political scientists John M. Sides, Michael Tesler and Lynn Vavreck found that the amount of news coverage Sanders received exceeded his share in the national polls in 2015. Throughout the campaign as a whole, their analysis showed that his "media coverage and polling numbers were strongly correlated."[1] They write that "Sanders's appeal, like Trump's, depended on extensive and often positive media coverage."[1] Furthermore, "media coverage brought Sanders to a wider audience and helped spur his long climb in the polls by conveying the familiar tale of the surprisingly successful underdog. Meanwhile, Clinton received more negative media coverage."[1]

[–] retrospectology 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Ohh, a political "scientist" said it, must be a fact. I take back everything I posted, I will now pretend that Wasserman Schultz didn't actively admit to trying to rig the convention against Sanders and that the court literally said in plain english that's what was happening.

Must've just been a coincidence!

The way you people try to rewrite history is insane.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ohh, a political “scientist” said it, must be a fact.

No, a political scientist didn't "say" it, they did a study with an attempt to objectively determine what actually happened, and the evidence led to a certain conclusion. You just don't like that the evidence contradicts how you feel so you're sarcastically trying to hand-wave it away. This isn't to say I know for a fact that what they say is the truth, but their evidence-based position is 1000x more reliable than your feelings.

I will now pretend that Wasserman Schultz didn’t actively admit to trying to rig the convention against Sanders and that the court literally said in plain english that’s what was happening.

Neither of these statements is true.

The way you people try to rewrite history is insane.

Projection. Notice how I've been providing facts and links, all you've done is provide how you feel about it. You are just like the Trump supporters that think they know the 2020 election was rigged against Trump. It turns out cultists are not all that different from other cultists.

[–] retrospectology 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So you ignore the facts you don't like, and take the ones you do. And I'm projecting...

Why the fuck do you think Wasserman Schultz stepped down? What is your explanation if it's not the scandal involving her bias as chair exposed in the emails? Coincidence? What possible benefit to you gain from this denial of established reality?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So you ignore the facts you don’t like, and take the ones you do. And I’m projecting…

How can I ignore that which you did not provide? All you've done throughout this is give your opinion about what happened, no actual facts. I would be more than happy to address any fact you have, because having had this discussion so many times already, I'm pretty confident I'm on the right side of it, and if not, I would like to learn how so and change my position. As I already have.

Why the fuck do you think Wasserman Schultz stepped down?

You made a claim as to why, so why not back it up?

hat is your explanation if it’s not the scandal involving her bias as chair exposed in the emails?

You're claim was that she tried to rig the convention against Sanders, and you're already backtracking it. Amazing.

What possible benefit to you gain from this denial of established reality?

lol You really have no idea how out-classed you are in this. I clearly challenged you to actually provide some facts, and all you are doing is attacking me instead.

Don't worry, I've had this same type of discussion with hundreds of Trump/Sander reality-deniers before, and I know no way in hell you can admit to yourself at this point that you've been fooled for so long. But It's sill funny watching you squirm.

Again, let me be clear: provide your sources for your empty ass claims that I've already called out. Anything short of that is an admission that you realize the facts are not on your side.

[–] retrospectology 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

How can I ignore that which you did not provide?

I literally pointed you to the court case where the court said the DNC was rigging the convention against Sanders. I provided you that. That's not my opinion, that's literally what happened in court and Wasserman Schultz resigned over it. Your eyes literally won't allow you to see it because it completely conflicts with the fantasy you want to believe is true (That the DNC isn't deeply corrupt and diametrically opposed to progressive values).

You've got to be a troll. We're done here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I literally pointed you to the court case where the court said the DNC was rigging the convention against Sanders

No you didn't. You made a claim about a court case that doesn't exist. You didn't link to anything or even name it.

Your eyes literally won’t allow you to see

You're right, my eyes won't allow me to see the fantasy you've created.

You’ve got to be a troll. We’re done here.

Don't blame me for your inability to support your claims.

[–] retrospectology 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I linked you directly to an article discussing the lawsuit.

https://observer.com/2017/08/court-admits-dnc-and-debbie-wasserman-schulz-rigged-primaries-against-sanders/

On August 25, 2017, Federal Judge William Zloch, dismissed the lawsuit after several months of litigation during which DNC attorneys argued that the DNC would be well within their rights to select their own candidate. “In evaluating Plaintiffs’ claims at this stage, the Court assumes their allegations are true—that the DNC and Wasserman Schultz held a palpable bias in favor Clinton and sought to propel her ahead of her Democratic opponent,” the court order dismissing the lawsuit stated. This assumption of a plaintiff’s allegation is the general legal standard in the motion to dismiss stage of any lawsuit. The allegations contained in the complaint must be taken as true unless they are merely conclusory allegations or are invalid on their face.

I'm blocking you now. Good bye.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

First, let me apologize i thought it was another poster who had linked to that.

Second, i addressed it, i didn't ignore it. You ignored my rebuttal. But i will try again here:

Even what you quote here doesn't say the court ruled it was true.

You're just exposing your own ignorance, as often the court doesn't bother to determine if the plaintiffs claims are true, they just assume they're true and then rule they don't have a case because they aren't claiming someone broke the law.

This doesn't say it is true, only that it doesn't matter whether it's true because it has no bearing on their ruling.

I’m blocking you now. Good bye.

Intellectual coward.