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[–] NoRodent 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

The biggest Czech website (Seznam.cz) recently changed their policy and now force you to choose between: free tier with personalised ads or paid tier with anonymous ads. Yes, you're reading it right, even if you pay, it doesn't get rid of ads, they just stop tracking you. I have no idea whether it's legal but the EU should definitely take a look.

Edit: Ok, I think they only offer you this choice when you're using an account. I tried it in a private tab and it seems I can decline personalized ads there. Does that make it legal? If yes, then they're some sneaky bastards.

[–] dojan 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, you’re reading it right, even if you pay, it doesn’t get rid of ads, they just stop tracking you.

🤢🤮

I hate what the internet has become.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I've been using an ad blocker for at least 15 years. I'm not about to stop now. I can't imagine paying only to see less relevant ads...

[–] dojan 2 points 5 months ago

Which will work great until corporations implement systems that force it onto us. Microsoft building it into the operating system. Mozilla acquiring advertising companies and implementing AI bullshit. Google edging closer to having a monopoly on browsers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

IANAL, but: Gdpr only says that they cannot require you to sell your data to use a service. It does not say anything about paying with money. So this seems legal to me

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

The GDPR says that if you use consent as the legal basis for processing data, such consent must be free. This means that there cannot be consequences if you give or not give the consent. If there are, then the consent is not free anymore. Paying money for a service is absolutely legal, obviously, what probably is not legal is extracting your consent by offering you a discount (which is the flipside of "pay to avoid tracking").

I just wanted to specify a bit, not that you said anything incorrect.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The case is basically that having a non-tracking paid tier makes no difference, the free tier if it exists can't include mandatory tracking.

So they can offer a paid tier with no tracking, but they must also offer no tracking on the free tier.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

That's correct. But this is only the case because of the DMA, mit the Gdpr

[–] NoRodent 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But I mean, it's the same thing as this FB/IG case, no? Only worse because even if you pay, you still have ads.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

No.

  • the Facebook case: DMA/ digital markets act. This case is only regarding the choice between personalisation or paying to access the service. Only for really big patients deemed to be gatekeepers. There are only five at the moment: https://digital-markets-act.ec.europa.eu/gatekeepers_en
  • showing ads that are personalized, or any other things where they use information about you: Gdpr. You have to allow it.
  • showing you ads that are not personalized: completely legal. Netflix does the same I think. Also Amazon prime.