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[–] 555_1 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Because the tax for that specific car will be 300%

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You have a poor understanding of sales tax bud

[–] 555_1 2 points 4 months ago
[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you just enter the state with the car? I'm not sure what you're suggesting. Are Mexicans who drive their car from Mexico City to Seattle expected to pay this 300% tax? Are they going to check the citizenship of every driver?

[–] 555_1 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You can’t drive a car that is unregistered. You can’t register the car in Mexico, get plates, come up here and expect to drive it around. Eventually when you have to register it, you’ll get a bill.

[–] FlyingSquid 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You can keep registering it in Mexico or you can register the car in a state that doesn't require residency like New York or Indiana.

So, again, unless you expect Washington to put up border check stations, I'm not sure how they can make people pay this tax.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This doesn't work as you getting pulled over with a WA ID in a car registered in Mexico is going to raise suspicions.

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure what you mean by raise suspicions. Is that legal or illegal?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's illegal. You're required to register your car in your own state typically within 30 days.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are you though? Your license needs to be for your own state, but I’ve never read anywhere that this applies to car registrations.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes pretty much across the board: https://www.carparts.com/blog/where-do-i-register-my-car-if-i-have-homes-in-two-states/#What_To_Do_If_Youve_Recently_Moved_Into_A_New_State

This references moving to a new state but the same rules apply whether you're moving to a new state or residing in the same state but buying a new vehicle.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That blog is a gross simplification and is not authoritative. Most of the time, you probably want to register your car in your state of residency, but if you scroll down just a tiny bit there are a whole list of states that allow you to register a car as a non-resident. All states respect cars registered in the other states, so if the vehicle is licensed and insured in one state and you have a valid personal drivers license, I see no reason why that wouldn’t work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Because road funding is derived from car registration, states absolutely require you to register your car there if you live and use the car there. The fact that some states allow you to register your car with them even if it's not your primary residence doesn't negate this fact. That's likely for wealthy people who may have multiple homes and cars that they don't use in other states. This doesn't mean you can legally register your car in NY when you really live in Iowa to get away from having to register it in Iowa. Iowa is still going to want their registration fees and if police see you driving said NY plated car over and over in Iowa, you're probably going to get ticketed for it especially if you have an Iowa license.

The blog is a gross simplification compared to what? All you're offering is your personal theories on how things work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Could you actually cite a law that roughly describes what you are claiming?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Here it is for Oregon. Every state will have its own version.

803.025 Violating title requirements; penalty. (1) A person commits the offense of violating vehicle title requirements if the person owns or operates any vehicle in this state for which this state has not issued title.

803.300 Failure to register; penalty. (1) A person commits the offense of failure to register a vehicle if the person owns a vehicle in this state and the person does not register the vehicle in this state.

  (2) In addition to other persons subject to this section, this section applies to out-of-state corporations owning, operating or maintaining a place of business in this state with regard to vehicles that are used by the corporation doing business in this state.

https://www.oregonlegislature.gov/bills_laws/ors/ors803.html

[–] 555_1 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You cannot register a car in New York without living there to avoid paying sales tax in the state you live in. Most states require you to pay sales tax based on your residency and where the vehicle will be primarily used. Additionally, registering a car in a state where you do not reside can be considered fraudulent and may lead to penalties.

Registering a car in Mexico also requires residency.

I understand the loopholes you are trying to find, but I promise you the penalties for getting caught will be worse than paying the tax.

Please don’t let my comments suggest that I support a large tax on these Chinese vehicles. I think everything is way too expensive and we need some competition.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You cannot register a car in New York without living there to avoid paying sales tax in the state you live in. Most states require you to pay sales tax based on your residency and where the vehicle will be primarily used.

Fine. Do it in indiana. We don't here. I don't need to try to find loopholes when A) they already exist and B) lawmakers are upset about it and are trying to close them.

[–] 555_1 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Did you read the article I pasted? Can you explain why lawmakers are worried about this problem if laws already take care of it?

[–] 555_1 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I see no pasted article link in this conversation thread.

And the reason why people are talking about it is because the fed is proposing tariffs on these cars, In addition to whatever state tax.

Let’s that the car is $10k imported. The fed charges a 100% tariff (suggested by Biden actually) so that gets passed to the consumer. Now the car is $20k, plus whatever sales tax you pay locally.

The reason people are talking about it is because this only benefits the local car manufacturers who won’t make a cheap car.

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] 555_1 2 points 4 months ago

The worry is that it will kill local competition.

It’s a free market in the US. I should be able to buy a Chinese car for $10k if I want too. If Ford can’t stay afloat, sucks to be ford.