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[–] Brkdncr 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Outlook is pretty good, and exchange does a decent job of making calendars available on mobile, web, or desktop client.

The outlook web app is the expected future.

Does it not work well with other calendar servers?

[–] BananaTrifleViolin 16 points 5 months ago

I disagree - Outlook is a walled garden of closed standards, and it makes users vulnerable to the whims of Microsoft or dependent entirely on their office ecosystem.

The recent outlook hack with senior accounts hacked and only being informed by Microsoft of the hack 1 year later is a good example.

Outlook is superficially good but essentially big businesses and organisations are locked in to a proprietary system for email and calendars and entirely reliant on Microsoft to keep their data secure.

I'm actually surprised Antitrust laws aren't used to break up the Office 365 monopoly. Only the teams integration is being challenged but the tight integration between Outlook, Office and OneDrive is monopolistic. Other services could integrate in the same way if Microsoft was forced to open up its APIs, which would be good for competition and customers.

At the moment you pretty much have to go all in with Office or forgo major integration benefits if you want to use different cloud or mail services. Why do you need 1 single provider for office software, mail and cloud storage?

[–] sicjoke 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The new Outlook (essentially Outlook on the web wrapped in an app framework) is very good indeed. I use it to aggregate my works 365 calendar with my multiple Google and Apple accounts.

[–] WhatAmLemmy 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Outlook is garbage. Everything Microsoft does is garbage and consumer hostile, except for visual studio code. Anyone who's used Google business apps knows this. Teams is such an unproductive joke I refuse to work for any company that uses it. It's evidence a company is cheap and values cost cutting more than efficiency.

I had a family 365 account to backup my parent's shit. Even though their PC's were logged into their fucking Microsoft accounts, and backed up to OneDrive, Outlook displayed ads and couldn't be linked to their subscription without changing their account emails. Ads were also re-inserted into their OS, even though I already ran multiple scripts to disable them all previously. Complete joke. Cancelled that shit.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

except for visual studio code

But also:

  • Telemetry everywhere
  • Not permitted to use the official marketplace with OSS builds
  • Not able to use certain extensions (like C# debugger) with OSS builds

Though I've been very happy about the direction .NET and C# have been going, especially the licensing.

[–] WhatAmLemmy 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's why vscodium exists brah

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

What I'm saying is that Microsoft is, in fact, being hostile by limiting OSS builds such as Codium in the ways I've mentioned above. I guess that's how they try to get people to keep using their proprietary build instead.

[–] sicjoke -1 points 5 months ago

I have never experienced any of this. Sounds like a skill issue.