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[–] [email protected] 78 points 6 months ago (63 children)

The discourse around Biden exiting the race is moot because the only one who decides if he continues is Biden. Biden is still running so nothing changes. Biden is who we need to vote for to keep our democracy.

Biden had a bad debate performance. It was a missed opportunity to pick up new voters. Biden demoralized his base. But we're still stuck with him, because there is no external mechanism to stop him from running.

The most effective tool we have to prevent the christo-fascist takeover this November is voting. The debate did not change that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (6 children)

sounds like the party is dysfunctional if we can't replace a candidate with 120 days of leadup. that's longer than any other country's election season. the inability of the democratic party to do good things on purpose makes a strong argument against their leadership if what they think they offer is competence

[–] mal3oon 10 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I thought the 2016 Bernie debacle was enough of a learning moment for the Democrats, yet 8 years go so long for memory lane. Biden is barely functional, anyone with old grandparents know how fast things accelerate, how is he even going to last 5 more years with that mental capacity? Isn't this at the end blind party loyalty, the same thing the republicans are criticized for? I guess rules for thee but not for me.

[–] itsgoodtobeawake 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yep - if you are for Biden after that debate you're just Blue MAGA, he is unfit for office at this point. That's not a "bad night" , that's an old man. I cant even believe these news articles, its outrageous. I basically support the guy and after that debate I don't know how I cam cast a vote of confidence that he can do the job. We're fucked.

[–] MrPoopbutt 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

One does not need to vote for biden, one only needs to vote against trump. It is unfortunate that those are the same.

[–] givesomefucks 0 points 6 months ago

But more people want to vote against trump than want to vote Biden.

And everyone voting Biden wants to vote against Trump.

Logically, to get the most votes, wed run a better candidate than Biden to maximize odds of stopping trump...

Like, you get that right?

Biden and the DNC is asking tens of millions of voters to vote for someone they don't want because stopping trump is so important. But refuse to step aside to help stop trump.

That's not us working together to stop trump.

It's Biden and the DNC holding the entire country hostage with the threat of trump if we don't elect someone we don't want.

Which just hurts Biden's chances of stopping trump even more, and shows that even if he wins, he's just going to do whatever the fuck he wants like continue to violate US and international law. Which is why:

But more people want to vote against trump than want to vote Biden.

If Biden really cared most about stopping Trump, he'd fucking retire.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

If he gets elected I'm not worried. He can die or be puppeted by his staff and things will be roughly as ok as they are now. I'm worried he won't get elected.

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