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China is attempting to mirror the entire GitHub over to their own servers, users report (infosec.exchange)

submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/technology

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GitCode, a git-hosting website operated Chongqing Open-Source Co-Creation Technology Co Ltd and with technical support from CSDN and Huawei Cloud.

It is being reported that many users' repository are being cloned and re-hosted on GitCode without explicit authorization.

There is also a thread on Ycombinator (archived link)

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[–] kava 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

First, this conversation has little to do with fair use. Fair use is when there is an acceptable reason to break copyright. For example when you are making a parody or critique or for education purposes.

What we are talking about is the act of reading and/or learning and then using that information in order to synthesize new material. This is essentially the entire point of education. When someone goes to art school, they study many different artists and their techniques. They learn from these techniques as they merge them together in different ways to create novel art.

Everybody recognizes this is perfectly OK and to assume otherwise is absurd. So what we are talking about is not fair use, but extracting data from copyrighted material and using it to create novel material.

The distinction here is you claim when this process is automated, it should become illegal. Why?

My opinion is if it's legal for a human to do, it should be legal for a human to automate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

What we are talking about is the act of reading and/or learning and then using that information in order to synthesize new material.

Sure, but that's not what LLMs are doing. They're breaking down works to reproduce portions of it in answers. Learning is about concepts, LLMs don't understand concepts, they just compare inputs with training data to provide synthesized answers.

The process a human goes through is distinctly different from the process current AI goes through. The process an AI goes through is closer to a journalist copy-pasting quotations into their article, which falls under fair use. The difference is that AI will synthesize quotations from multiple (many) sources, whereas a journalist will generally just do one at a time, but it's still the same process.