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[–] [email protected] 75 points 4 days ago (3 children)

This meme might not age well. Biden doesn’t look so good in the debate so far.

[–] pjwestin 58 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, he is getting the shit kicked out of him. Trump is spouting insane lies, but Biden is stumbling over his words on every response.

[–] Iheartcheese 29 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The only word salad moment(as of 15 minutes ago when I just had to turn it off) was near the start when Biden just kinda trailed off saying random words.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And when he said he beat medicare

[–] Iheartcheese 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] timewarp 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It was him showing America how much he cares about women's rights, equality, & democracy. So much he's willing to put us at a significant risk of losing those things for decades if not longer. God, I can only hope something causes Kamala to become the candidate or he steps aside for someone else.

[–] pjwestin 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Kamala would 100% lose. Her campaign didn't have a single victory in 2020, and she was one of the first to drop out. If the Democrats had held a primary, we might have found a candidate that could beat him, but as it stands now, our best hope is that Trump finally finishes eating himself to death before the election.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

I imagine that Kamala could at least win an argument with a potted plant, which is more than you could say about Biden at this point.

[–] pjwestin 25 points 4 days ago (3 children)

That was certainly the worst of it, but it didn't get much better for him, he fumbled over a lot of his delivery. It was much harder for him though, he was using facts and figures while Trump was just saying whatever lie popped into his head.

[–] mojofrododojo 12 points 4 days ago

Trumps replies seldom had any connection to the thread/question posed by moderator. he was simply waiting for his turn to ramble a gish gallop out.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

Yeah, it reminded me a lot of the Carter/Reagan debate, only if Carter had a massive concussion.

[–] timewarp 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

And yet Trump still sounded more cognizant even if he was lying.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

Because he didn't have to be careful to make sure he was right. He just said whatever anyway

[–] rhandyrhoads 3 points 3 days ago

I think that's the biggest danger with Trump. Even though he's less with it than Biden, what comes out of his mouth sounds more coherent if you're not concerned with the facts of the matter.

I was a bit concerned with Biden when he would say the wrong word or trail off, but at the end of the day it's less about who the president is and more about who they hire. I really wish the DNC had ran a different candidate.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago

Yeah, this is pretty painful to watch. Trump is a piece of shit, but he's way more forceful and even somewhat coherent. Meanwhile, Biden's just above a whisper and is somewhere between stuttering and rambling.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago

If this Biden feeling ‘jacked up’, I shudder to think what he’s like when he’s not. He’s not doing a great job of spruiking his own achievements and his answers are devoid of stats or figures - likely because they weren’t able to bring notes in. He’s sadly making trump look more coherent and lively by comparison.