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We take a look at all the countries and territories where it is still illegal to be gay or LGBTQ+ – and examine the role colonialism played.

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[–] Belastend 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The topic is persecution of LGBTQ+ folk and unless we wanna exclude the majority of countries from that list, we should talk about Islamic Regimes.

Because surprise, surprise, a patriachical authoritarian religion will come down hard on dissenters :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The topic is persecution of LGBTQ+ folk ...where it's the result of colonialism.

There's not a soul that will deny the homophobia present in islamic states, but that's not the point of this article. You people just can't help yourself.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

The point of the article is trying to explain the persistence of anti LGBTQIA+ legislation in the world. This is discussing an alternative (or in scientific terms, confounding variable) that challenges the absolute notions laid out in the article. I have no stake in this argument and am making no points against the British Empire or the Muslim religion, but to state that this discussion isn’t relevant to the article is frankly disingenuous.

As a bisexual man of historical UK origin, I can see and understand both impacts simultaneously. I also think we can discuss all forms of queerphobia simultaneously, and that it does a disservice to all my LGBTQIA+ comrades to dissent genuine discussion over the impacts of both colonialism and religion on the presence of queerphobia just because that’s not the specific angle of this specific article.

[–] Belastend 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The tjing you quoted sure as hell isnt the title of it. The main argument of the article is "Its all colonialism's fault" and people pointing put that its not. Like yeah, you people, because anyone who critizes the treatment of minorities in Islamic States must be Islamophobic, just like anyone who critizises Isreal must be an Antisemite lol.