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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] br3d 51 points 1 week ago (3 children)

These things only become meaningful when you look at emissions per capita AND remember that China manufactures large amounts of the world's stuff. All your iPhone emissions count as China's because it was manufactured there, but they really belong to your country. Same for loads of other stuff. Careful you don't fall for the tenor of this article, because it's probably intended to distract you ("Why should I bother when China is really bad?") and keep you consuming

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

Yeah, but the energy for manufacturing comes from a just large percentage of coal power plants and it seems they even want to build new ones.

So yes, they are the world's factory and it's unfair to just blame them for building stuff for us. But how they do it needs to be criticised

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Eh, this is a little simplistic. While it is indisputably true that you have to look at per capita emissions and that chinese manufacturing makes loads of the stuff made that second point needs more exploring.

Because capitalism is a garbage, nightmare system manufacturing gets sent, in general, to the cheapest manufacturer. The fantasy is this represents the most awesome, magical, and clever business but IRL it usually has more to do with loosest tax, safety, and environmental laws.

So you can't view the manufacturing as some selfless sacrifice of emissions, there may be government policies in play meaning idk dirty power is really cheap or whatever.

I basically think country vs country is a fucking stupid lens to view this through in general, because for all some fakelandian business might dump uranium in a river fakelandia is probably the way it is for reasons that non uranium dumping countries aren't guilt free in.

our global system has produced these problems, not moustache twirling villianous defectors.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I love Lemmy. I often come in here thinking about the downsides of an article and it's usually the top voted comment. Contrast with the... other... site... where the top comment is probably racist posted by a bot.