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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] MinorLaceration 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah agreed. I'm just saying what's the difference between someone choosing to subject themselves to that heat for religion vs someone who chose to do it for some other reason. I'm not religious, but the fact that someone else died practicing what they believe doesn't make me happy. The initial comment I replied to is just feeding into the atheism circle-jerk that's really common here.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The point is that someone willing to die in the heat for something that doesn't exist probably isn't the most useful to society. It doesn't have to make you happy

[–] LeroyJenkins 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

why hate on them if you don't understand them? I honestly couldn't care less about religion personally, but I don't go out of my way to say they're stupid. sounds like you think the Muslim religion is stupid and so you're projecting onto Muslims and saying they're stupid because you personally think the religion is stupid.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

No I don't care if people practice religion. But if you willingly go out out in deadly heat because of it, that makes you stupid. If they were doing it because of another reason I'd call that stupid too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s not really easy for us to tell who’s useful for society, even less so if you want to be even a little bit objective. If your metric is intelligence, that’s not a good one (depression, substance use disorder, and many other things that don’t make for a super happy or functional person are correlated with intelligence).

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not talking about intelligence. There's lots of intelligent religious people. I'm talking about people killing themselves because their religious leaders want them to pray in 120° heat in the sun. Unless you're being forced, if you willingly doing that, you're an idiot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There’s going to be unintended consequences if you intentionally get rid of agreeable, optimistic people.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

When did I ever say I wanted to intentionally get rid of people?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

That’s fair, sorry. There’s going to be unintended consequences if agreeable, optimistic people are suddenly gone from the population, which the original removed comment starting this thread suggested wasn’t an issue.