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An email I received from the Detroit Edison (DTE) Energy Company today. The text reads:

How it works:

Installation*: DTE will install the device on your electric meter in less than 30 minutes. No need to schedule an appointment or be at home. Your home is protected as soon as the device is installed by our technicians.

Protection and Warranties: The warranty coverage provides $5,000 per event for appliances and $1,000 per event for electronics to repair or replace your household items in the event the device fails to protect against damaging surges.

Stay Connected: Your surge device comes with a FREE 20-foot power cable. In the event of a power outage, you can connect your generator to the surge device with the power cable to power your home up to the generator’s capacity. Easy access for your generator – you won’t have to run extension cords from your generator into your home.

Learn more | Enroll now

*There’s a one-time installation fee for a surge protection plus device of $49.99, which is a limited time offer and will expire on December 31, 2024. After the expiration date, the installation fee will return to its normal price of $99.99. To access the Surge Protection Plus program’s Terms and Conditions, visit dteenergy.com/sppterms.

and of course that URL is hyperlinked with a big long tracking string on the end of it so I won't be sharing it

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago (2 children)

ex European living in US

it is WILD how often the power goes out here.

Multiple times a year - sometimes for days at a time. We had to claim the contents of our fridge and freezer on insurance after it went out for 4 days.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is emphatically not the case for all Americans, but it certainly can be. Do you live somewhere remote?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] FenrirIII 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

A red state, in terms of state leadership

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Where do you live that this is happening?

I ask because this hasn't been my experience ever in the US having lived in cities and states of various sizes.

I will believe there are problems some places in the US, but I would then ask: are you living in a similar area as you were in the EU in terms of population and income?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I can't speak for the person you replied to's experience, but in mine it's usually either a car hit a powerline pole or a storm knocked a tree/branch into some lines and cut it. While I'm sure it's technically possible to make powerlines that can survive tornadoes, that's not practical.

In the case of a car causing it, it's rarely down for more than an hour. Usually less. Storms can be anywhere for a few minutes to hours depending on how bad it is/how big the effected area is. If I had to guess, I lose power for >30min probably twice a year. Mostly depends on how bad tornado season is.

Worst I've personally experienced was ~12 hours after a really bad storm knocked out power to a really, really big area. We got unlucky and were towards the end of the repair cycle.

Then you have Texas, who run their own grid separate from the national grid. It fails when it gets too cold. Not too much of an issue, it's Texas, doesn't get that cold too often. Problem is it also fails when it gets too hot. That's very much an issue, it's Texas, it gets hot real often.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

🤷‍♂️

I will admit to not having lived in the south. Maybe things are that bad down there, based on what you're saying.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

we just have exterior/above ground power lines on poles connected to the eaves of the buildings in a state with a lot of inclement weather and large amount of leafy tree growth.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean, yeah, but I grew up in the northeast. You get a power cut from storms, ice, winds taking branches down, etc. You would usually lose power for less than a day. This maybe happened once every couple years?

This was 30+ years ago for me now, but that kind of minor outage is almost unavoidable.

I'm not sure why Atlanta would have a harder time than upstate ny, but I am willing to believe you. Its just not been my experience anywhere I have lived (which has mostly been what you describe: above ground lines).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Do you count power going out for a few seconds? I feel like that happens at least once a month, whereas that was hugely irregular in the UK?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I have never experienced that in the various places in the US I have lived.

I have lived in an old building where the voltage could and would sometimes drop too much for modern electronics to handle. A power conditioner or UPS resolved that if you run into that particular problem.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

yes I have four UPSeseses in my house!

It's tempting to blame it on the house, but I've lived in four different places (although all in the same area) — three houses and one apartment that all do it.