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An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

Serious posts, news, and discussion go in c/Socialism.

If you are new to socialism, you can ask questions and find resources over on c/Socialism101.

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0. Only post socialist memes


That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)


1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here


Try to keep an open mind, other schools of thought may offer points of view and analyses you haven't considered yet. Also: This is not a place for the Idealism vs. Materialism or rather Anarchism vs. Marxism debate(s), for that please visit c/AnarchismVsMarxism.


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That means condemning (their) imperialism, even if it is of the "anti-USA" flavor.


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That includes so called: Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Dengism, Market Socialism, Patriotic Socialism, National Bolshevism, Anarcho-Capitalism etc. . Anti-Socialist people and content have no place here, as well as the variety of "Marxist"-"Leninists" seen on lemmygrad and more specifically GenZedong (actual ML's are welcome as long as they agree to the rules and don't just copy paste/larp about stuff from a hundred years ago).


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The only dangerous minority is the rich.


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We must constructively learn from their mistakes, while acknowledging their achievements and recognizing when they have strayed away from socialist principles.

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Notable achievements in all spheres of society were made by various socialist/people's/democratic republics around the world. Mistakes, however, were made as well: bureaucratic castes of parasitic elites - as well as reactionary cults of personality - were established, many things were mismanaged and prejudice and bigotry sometimes replaced internationalism and progressiveness.



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[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, you are saying that:

"Except in America it seems that's the exact case"

Please elaborate on what axe I'm grinding.

Logically explaining the truth and repeating basic facts?

How devious.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Logically explaining the truth and repeating basic facts?

What facts? You keep making statements without baking them up at all, or even giving any reasoning.

I don't agree with leftists that all police throughout the world are evil or unnecessary. I think in some countries they are demonstrably better or worse than others. Places like Mexico and the USA they seem to be corrupt or straight up sadists, who are in the pockets of gangs and rich capitalists respectively.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So you've already forgotten the facts, but your argument as that those facts that you can't remember don't have any reasoning?

Unconvinciiing.

Some police officers are corrupt and sadists.

Some bakers are corrupt and sadists as well.

Don't worry. Although you appear confused and defensive about these statements, nobody is saying otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

No I haven't forgotten anything you have said. You were claiming that good cops weren't being pushed out of the USA police, and that they aren't all bad as a result. Yet you haven't actually given a single example.

Don't worry. Although you appear confused and defensive about these statements, nobody is saying otherwise.

You are the one being defensive and confused here. We weren't arguing that only some are bad. I am arguing that the majority are bad in the USA and Mexico because any good police would be pushed to leave because of institutional failings.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I don't remember claiming that good cops weren't being pushed out of the USA police, do you have a source for that?

And then you agreeing with me that not acab.

Great, I agree.