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[–] HomerianSymphony 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Russia tried to take Kyiv and lost.

Russia says the attack on Kyiv was to destroy munition supplies and wasn't intended to be an occupation.

I can't know if that's true or not, but Russia hasn't tried any other attacks on Kyiv, so I'm tempted to believe it.

Biden got an infrastructure deal done and has cancelled some student debt, among other things.

Wow. In just four years. How inspiring.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Russia says the attack on Kyiv was to destroy munition supplies and wasn’t intended to be an occupation.

That's a lie.

I can’t know if that’s true or not

Google it. The truth is knowable.

but Russia hasn’t tried any other attacks on Kyiv

That's because Russia is losing the war.

so I’m tempted to believe it.

Why would you want to believe the lies of a fascist dictatorship? Your argument boils down to mistaking Russia's defeats at the hands of Ukraine as a nonexistent strategy.

Wow. In just four years. How inspiring.

Biden has accomplished everything with a razor thin majority in Congress in the first two years and then a Republican controlled House in the second two years. It's impressive.

[–] HomerianSymphony -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

That's because Russia is losing the war.

So they've been telling us for the past two years while the front line has barely moved.

Why would you want to believe the lies of a fascist dictatorship?

It's not a matter of what I want to believe. (To paraphrase Ben Shapiro, facts don't care about my feelings.)

There are two competing narratives out there, and one fits the evidence I can see while the other is getting increasingly hard to believe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

So they’ve been telling for the past two years while the front line has barely moved.

I already debunked this false claim in my argument.

It’s not a matter of what I want to believe. (To paraphrase Ben Shapiro, facts don’t care about my feelings.)

Facts can't care about anything. Being tempted implies you want the thing that is being offered. I want to know why you would want to be lied to, because it's a weird thing to want. Also, your argument provides no facts and misrepresents Russian defeats by Ukraine as strategy that Russia does not have.

There are two competing narratives out there, and one fits the evidence I can see while the other is getting increasingly hard to believe.

There is the truth and Russian propaganda. Your argument has no evidence to support it.

Also, to bring this discussion back to the original topic at hand, Biden is a neo-liberal and Trump is a fascist. They are not the same. Thus it is reasonable that a group that is against Trump's fascist MAGA movement is anti-fascist.