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[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Those figures are likely to be concerning CO2 emissions only because I know that methane, a significant part of agriculture's climate impact, increases climate heating far more than CO2 does, per ton, and this makes it hard to quantify climate harm due to emissions. (Though I'm not personally familiar with the figures or how they're calculated, so it's possible that yours were an aggregated comparison or similar)

but if we try that, fossil fuel companies and bacon enjoyers are going to end up on the same team

I understand what you're saying about lobbying forces clubbing together, but we simply don't have time to attack one, then the other: Consider a world where we win the fossil fuel fight, but we're still fucked because of all the other sectors killing the planet โ€” how do we overcome the "there's nothing we can do about it" when it too late. Ofc, "too late" isn't a hard cut off deadline (because if it were, we'd have already passed it), but we are exponentially heading to a complete climate collapse.

I'm arguing that if we want to avert the climate catastrophe, the average bacon eater does need to eat a heckton less bacon. But it's not the average bacon eater I'm worried about, it's the massive agricultural industry, which has financial interests that massively overlap with the fossil fuel industry. They're functionally already on the same side, and my opinion is that we won't start making progress in the battle against climate change until we acknowledge that.