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Everything Apple iOS 18 Will Do, Android Already Does (gizmodo.com)

submitted 1 month ago by jeffw to c/technology

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[–] danielfgom -2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Except the iPhone isn't junk - best in class CPU, best in class cameras, best in class accessories, magsafe, best in class security(FaceID), best in class messaging with iMessage, best in class emoji/animoji/memoji, best in class OS updates, busy in class animations and app design, best in class post sales service, best in class devices ecosystem....

Huge difference.

[–] EncryptKeeper 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

iPhones haven’t had best in class cameras in years. One of the pain points of moving to iPhone was giving up the superior camera experience of Google pixels and Samsung phones.

[–] danielfgom 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Pixel is good but outside the US is barely available
The only good Samsung cameras are on the Galaxy S line aka premium models. The rest of the phones, the ones most people buy, are crap.

For the price of a used iPhone there is NO phone that can take as good photos and videos

[–] EncryptKeeper 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Not at all. iPhones are very capable point and shoot camera phones, but even at a more budget price point iPhone cameras haven’t been best in class in at least 5 or 6 years.

The pixel 5-6 were like $600 phones with unmatched cameras and even better camera software. The modern non-pro pixels like the 7 and 8 also beat out all but the pro max models of recent iPhones.

Similar to that the Samsung fan edition phones were beating out iPhone cameras at a $600 price point brand new.

That isn’t to say there’s anything wrong with iPhone cameras, but they’re not nearly the best either. Even at lower price points. Like it’s becoming quite clear that you are just saying things at this point because you really like iPhones. But almost none of the things you claim are remotely true.

[–] danielfgom 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not saying that because I like iPhones.

You are in the US so pixels are widely available and cheap. As is the FE series.

Where I live, outside the US, the Pixel is not sold nor will Google let you buy it. So pixel is a no go.

The Fan Edition Samsung costs virtually the same as the regular edition where I live, if you can find an FE. It costs €700+...

99% of our population can only afford €250-300 phones. €700 is out of reach unless you're single, hehe a great job and still live with mum and dad. Or you are the 1%.

So at that price ALL the android cameras are shit, shit, shit.

So, if I import from the UK a used iPhone 12 it will cost about €350. At that price NOTHING can touch it below €700.

Everything below €700 is Chinese cheapie and Samsung cheapie, also known as crap phones.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't get it. I live in Germany and own a pixel 7 pro. I had no trouble buying it. In fact, I just bought one for my wife. Decided I don't need the pixel 8 because the 7 pro works like a charm. Where do you live that you can't buy Pixels?

[–] danielfgom 1 points 1 month ago

Cyprus. Also in the EU but no official sales or support. I'm sure it's the same in most countries in South America, Africa, Asia and the Far East.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you want good photos, buy a real camera with a good lens and learn to manipulate raw files. Smartphone pictures will only look good on a tiny screen. The amount of postprocessing that takes place without any of your input makes the photos look bland. That said, android phones do have the better hardware and by saving the raw files you at least get to develop the pictures yourself, the way you want it, sort of.

[–] danielfgom 1 points 1 month ago

I have a great pocket camera but it's not practical to carry it wherever I go. Most photos are taken spontaneously and for that reason you want a great camera on your smartphone.

Also, most Android phones cannot capture RAW.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

certain android phones have better cameras
I don't know about CPUs, but that's kind of a non-issue as phones are very fast anyway, even the low-budget ones. I'll bet there are android phones with higher performance though.
face unlock has got to be the dumbest way to secure your phone. All one has to do is point the damn thing at your face and it's unlocked
MagSafe is a weird thing to list. Wireless charging kind of makes it redundant, right? Plus there are aftermarket usb-c adapters to have the exact same thing.
no one uses iMessage outside of the USA
emojis? Seriously?
I'll give you the updates one, it's easier to update hardware that's trapped in a walled garden
animations?
iOS has some very high quality apps, I'll give you that one too

All of the above doesn't really matter though. I have an iPhone for work and I just hate the user interface. It's just very inefficient and clunky. The worst thing is how it's so difficult to get some real ad blocking going. Also, the feeling of being trapped in their ecosystem has an almost claustrophobic effect on me.

Google sucks a big dick too however, just like the internet itself does. I'm really contemplating on going back to a feature phone soon.