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There are few things fascists hate as much as antifascist coalitions (lemmy.world)

submitted 6 months ago by PugJesus to c/politicalmemes

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[+] PugJesus -14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

? And yes, they leverage their only political power they have in the USA, their vote, in June months before the election, to get better policies. Wow what an undemocratic move of them.

Yes, congratulations, you have suddenly become aware that building support for an election starts slightly sooner than a week before election day.

It’s like they are Schrödingers leftists: powerful enough to prevent Biden from being reelected and it’s totally their fault if Trump wins, not the democratic party, but not powerful enough to receive any compromises because they are such a small voter base and so radical with their demands of stopping a genocide and protecting illegal immigrants.

Have you not noticed that elections in the US are typically won at or under single digit percentage points? If you're 3% of a coalition that wins by 1%, you're big enough to sink the entire coalition if you throw a hissy fit over being asked to join up against a literal fascist, but not big enough to warrant losing the support of, say, 40% of the coalition.

So yeah, both "The far-left is a small part of the coalition" and "If they don't vote for the coalition, there's a good chance we lose and fascism wins" are not mutually fucking exclusive.

[–] sozesoze 14 points 6 months ago

Yes, congratulations, you have suddenly become aware that building support for an election starts slightly sooner than a week before election day.

Thanks, Pug. I wasn't aware.

But to be serious, these posts like yours started at the primaries, even longer before the election than now, with the same messaging: Leftists that don't want an even bigger shift to the right in democratic policies should not complain, or else they are at fault for Trump term number two. That's crazy. Maybe, just maybe, the DNC can do something themselves to prevent Trump. Instead of blackmailing supporters, they could do something these supporters like.

If you’re 3% of a coalition that wins by 1%, you’re big enough to sink the entire coalition if you throw a hissy fit over being asked to join up against a literal fascist, but not big enough to warrant losing the support of, say, 40% of the coalition.

If someone is only 3% or even lower of your base, but you depend on them or else you don't get the majority, these 3% don't just get a 3% say in the coalition. The majority has to make bigger concessions than they want. That's how 2+ party coalitions work in other parliaments. Smaller parties aren't just there to be dragged by a chain to vote for everything the bigger party/parties want them to, just for little treats here or there.

Also, I don't think only 3% want a ceasefire or don't want republican immigration policies enacted by their own candidate, it's considerably more people.