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[–] Phegan 63 points 6 months ago (13 children)

I do think there is a constructive way to talk about how both sides accommodate the interests of the ruling class. We are at the point where our choices are corporate shills and fascist corporate shills. I am going to vote for the non-fascists every time, but don't tell me I am harming the conversation when I expect the corporate shills to be better too.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (9 children)

We need to start pushing other parties. This doesn't change for as long as we keep dems and repubs.

However, I'm voting blue for prez and over any repub for the foreseeable future.

[–] JustAnotherRando 9 points 6 months ago (3 children)

The way to actually make progress in this regard is to start at low level. City, county, and eventually state positions have to be the focus if we want to get a broader range of parties into the conversation.

[–] jorp 9 points 6 months ago

Better yet join political organizations like unions, get involved. Voting does barely anything.

[–] RandomGuy79 2 points 6 months ago

Oh shit, nuance, here?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Good luck. You need other people to want to do that as well and when democrats and republicans are throwing "fuck you" money at anyone that isn't beholden to their shared investors you are gonna get nothing done.

We do, we really do, need something to change and we need it to flow through multiple levels from low to to high government positions.
But I just don't see it happening until the next large scale cultural upheaval makes space for it and that seems like it's gonna be a nightmare or lots of groups that have waited for that moment.

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