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Because of federation.
If this were an internal issue with Lemmy.ml, ie the people on Lemmy.ml are collectively in favor of change, then it's different. If people outside of Lemmy.ml want to change Lemmy.ml, doesn't it make more sense to just build up what you think is better, so you don't need Lemmy.ml at all?
It's not that simple though due to the Federation. The .ml community are blended together with everything.
Asking for more reasonable moderation isn't a big ask.
Is the Lemmy.ml instance federated with everyone against their will?
This is basically a smear campaign, Lemmy.world has been on an anti-Communist witch hunt for a long time, always has been. Marxists of all varieties are targeted by this witch hunt, when Lemmy.world can defederate at any time. Lemmy.ml's admins want to have a connected fediverse, so they have already stated that they won't defed .world, so .world's users can either block, defederate, or learn to live with it.
That's the entire point of federation, really.
But what if I don't want to live in my own echo chamber, nor do I want to be subjected to another echo chamber within which I can't participate? Having fair moderation practices and not banning people from participating in completely unrelated subs doesn't seem like too much to ask.
In my view this being completely about .world not liking .ml politics is a straw man. This is about decorum and applying moderation practices equally, without bias, and avoiding punitive bans in unrelated communities.
You can simultaneously be in both chambers, that's the nice thing about federation
I think it's healthy for people to be pushed into modulating their own behavior when in mixed company, I think it encourages a richer and more challenging experience. I wouldn't waltz into my local catholic church and start complaining about their stance on gay marriage, and then get mad when they decide they don't want me there anymore. If you want to participate in that community, you have to find a way to communicate with them without crossing that ideological threshold. And if you're just too dissimilar to get along at all then by golly, maybe that community isn't a great fit.
I think you and me would get along great if we met in person.
But I hate your web personality, friend. At least so far.
I’m choosing to just reply to this comment to you in this particular thread, because I’m a bit exhausted after talking to this linkerbaan fella in another thread. But I think you and I could really see eye to eye on a bunch of things, assuming I’m not mixing you up with somebody else.
I like your moxie, if you’ll excuse any condescension you may detect (it’s not there, I promise).
But this shit is precisely why I wanna have a good internet space for legit debate. I sincerely hope I can find a spot that offers an open forum for some good faith political debate that isn’t moderated based on butt-hurt-ed-ness.
Then create a political debate comm? What's stopping you from doing that? I'd personally block that community immediately, because online debate bros have probably the least tolerable kind of online behavior. Thinking you can walk into someone else's community and start 'political debate' is probably why you can't understand their moderation - if I was the mod I'd ban you too
I'm familiar with linkerbann, I like seeing him around
Not if they ban you for asking the most basic of questions about moderation, or for having a different opinion.
Banning people for having different opinions is bad.
In my experience, "just asking questions" is never just asking questions, but I suppose that's me presuming guilt
I've asked plenty of questions there and have never had a run in with their mods. I have to assume the question was insulting or disingenuous, or both.
But hey you can always make an account elsewhere and try again under better circumstances
"Why are there so many comments removed in this thread?" is a legitimate question.
That's funny because I run into that regularly on .world but I've never thought 'there must be a mod abusing their moderation right now'
That's on you then.
Actually I think it's on the people who go to .ml specifically to make an ideological statement