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[–] froh42 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Yes, riiiiiiight - as well as my grandparent generation had noooothing to do with the things that happened here in Germany during WW2.

I would get it if she'd acknowledge what her country does and state that she doesn't agree with Russia invading other countries. But this tearful "everyone treats us soooo bad", blaming everyone else.... fuck, no.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

IDK. Where was he during WW2? Mexico?

[–] froh42 1 points 6 months ago

I was sarcastic. In Germany. He was very adept at arranging himself during the war and also afterwards.

I have reason to believe he was one of those who chose to ignore things, that's why I can't stand such people - just like the woman in the video.

[–] Land_Strider -3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

It is one thing to make an enemy in a state power, it is another to disagree and try to put it behind yourself. You can say many of the Russians in Russia are complicit in this war even if they are not directly supporting it, but many more are just some people making a living where they are born and where they usually have no easy access to leave or not be a part of.

Don't make this topic more harmful nationalistic one more than it already is. Warring states, propaganda brainwashing and violent bigots are one thing and should not be given the benefit of the doubt. The civilians that have no overt or willing part in it but caught in the literal or political/social crossfire are another thing and what makes war worse than hell because you one can't separate the two easily, but one must try.

Edit: Also your rhetoric is the same one Putin has been using for a decade in the annexed and occupied eastern Ukraine. "They are all Nazis over there" is one easy step towards the horrors of war.

[–] froh42 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

"They are all Nazis over there" is something you try to put into my mouth.

I said it is the same situation in Russia where people do not speak up against what their country does. I also understand if they fear repercussions.

But this woman, who said she was in Brazil before, just whines around, "Russia is strong" and obviously is very OK with what happens or chooses to ignore it. She has been out of Russia for some time, she has seen other. media.

What I said - the same what happened in Germany is happening in Russia right now. People CHOOSING not to see and not to, speak about it.

I never said anything about "all" Russians.

Don't try to put words in my mouth.

What I expect - yes demand - from someone like this woman is acknowledging what happens.