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The lemmy.ml Problem (self.support)

submitted 5 months ago by Roflmasterbigpimp to c/support

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Dear Admins and Users of lemmy.world,

I am writing to express my concerns about the impact of lemmy.ml on our community. It has come to my attention that lemmy.ml frequently disseminates propaganda and engages in historical revisionism. Moreover, there have been instances where their admin privileges were used to suppress dissenting views, reminiscent of the already defederated lemmygrad instance.

While personal blocking of lemmy.ml is an option, it does not address the broader issue of new users potentially being influenced by misleading content. It is crucial that we protect our users from a continuous stream of biased information.

To illustrate these concerns, I have provided a link to a detailed post on the Fediverse that documents these issues comprehensively [Here].

Given these points, I urge the admins to consider a defederation from lemmy.ml. If their users wish to remain part of Lemmy.ml, that is entirely acceptable, but we should take steps to prevent the propagation of harmful misinformation, especially in their comment sections.

Thank you for your consideration.

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[–] kabe -5 points 5 months ago (8 children)

I've seen it in the obvious communities like [email protected], sure. But in non-political ones? Not once.

[–] Roflmasterbigpimp 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (7 children)

https://lemmy.ml/post/16185014

https://lemmy.ml/post/7981013

https://lemmy.ml/post/15667300

Here are three posts from the memes-community. They got downvoted to oblivion (from the Users) and contain propaganda, but were not removed or anything from the moderators or admins. The People who posted thisdid not got punished or anything.

Here is a Comment from someone who tells about his own experience in communist Hungary. His Comment got removed for violating rule 1 "Be civil and nice.". Why does this comment of his own experience get removed for being not nice, but posts which contain propaganda and clearly insult people in an non-political Community like Memes did not?

This Comment (even though I disagree with its content) got removed for “Bourgeois Bootlicking” despite having Rule 2 in place, which states: “Be respectful, especially when disagreeing. Everyone should feel welcome here.” His Comment was as, if you ask me, maybe not totally polite but still acceptable.

The Admins on lemmy.ml are totally willing to turn a blind eye towards propaganda, Insults and lies "for their side" even in non-political communities but they will strike you down if you disagree.

Of course, I can't cover every community and I'm sure there are many people who are not like this but there is a huge trend towards this style of moderation.

PS. : Sorry for light-mode. I somehow could not turn it off on lemmy.ml.

[–] kabe -3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

I appreciate the effort you've put in here, but still I do not see grounds for defederation. You've just given me three examples from a single community that is obviously political.

Look, the question isn't "are there communities on lemmy.ml that are ideologically censored", because of course there are; the question I am putting to you is "is the average user going about their business and not actively engaging in politically-oriented communities affected enough to warrant the largest Lemmy instance completely defederating?" I would still say no, personally.

[–] taipan 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I see more than enough justification to defederate. Being banned from every lemmy.ml community such as the Linux community because you dared to make a critical comment about China or Russia in another lemmy.ml community is ridiculous and unacceptable.

lemmy.world should only support communities with reasonable moderation policies that do not punish users for merely contradicting a lemmy.ml moderator's political stance.

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