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Study finds 268% higher failure rates for Agile software projects (www.theregister.com)

submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] iamtherealwalrus 15 points 5 months ago (4 children)

On all the agile projects I've worked on, the teams have been very reluctant to make a specification in place before starting development. Often claiming that we can't know the requirements up-front, because we're agile.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

On all the agile projects I’ve worked on, the teams have been very reluctant to make a specification in place before starting development.

I don't think this is an Agile thing, at all. I mean, look at what Agile's main trait: multiple iterations with acceptance testing and product&design reviews. At each iteration there is planning. At each planning session you review/create tickets tracking goals and tasks. This makes it abundantly clear that Agile is based in your ability to plan for the long term but break/adapt progress into multiple short-term plans.

[–] pivot_root 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

For your sake, I hope your employment was agile as well. Those jobs sound like they were dumpster fires waiting to happen.

[–] kippinitreal 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Also seems like a shitty get-outta-jail-free card. With no design in place, timelines and acceptance criteria can't be enforced. "Of course we're done now, we just decided that we're done!"

[–] Anticorp 4 points 5 months ago

That's boneheaded.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How did they know how to break things down into tasks? How did they know if a task would fit in a sprint? 😄

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

We're so agile the sprint became a time-block framework rather than a lock-down of tickets that we certainly will finish. (In part because stuff comes up within sprint.)