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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The would still need a reason to stop

The reason to stop comes up only if your lawyer brings it up. A public defender isn't going to bring it up because it requires being able to build enough doubt to have the judge inquiry. And a judge is going to be less favorable in giving a benefit of the doubt for a public defender. If you cannot afford a lawyer, you're less likely to afford the filing should the court go down that road of police inquiry.

This is why most people who go with public defenders just go with simple bench arranged plea deals. The vast majority of people pulled over aren't going to have the resources to challenge this. That's the entire point.

[–] MiddleWeigh 2 points 1 year ago

This is so true. I had a public defender. They did literally nothing, and would only have done so if I had done all the leg work and brought my case to them. If you don't have a good paid lawyer, your getting smoked. The cops can say absolutely anything in the report and in court and your guilty until proven innocent unless you've got a paid lawyer. Plea deals all day. It's messed up. I even had the strange inclination that my PD just straight up worked for the judge tbh. Wouldn't surprise me.

Tbf I've had more luck in blue cities with PDs. In rural red areas, forget it.

Too much contact with the legal system in my life. But now that it's behind me, I feel pretty strongly about removing any unnecessary police contact points, like this law, because I've seen good people get sailed down the river on some b.s.

This just seems ripe for corruption and misuse.

The cops can now just pull anyone over from these states just because of your plates. If they don't like the cut of your jib, your gonna get harassed.