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For more than 30 years, the United States has worked tirelessly to eliminate our chemical weapons stockpile. Today, I am proud to announce that the United States has safely destroyed the final munition in that stockpile—bringing us one step closer to a world free from the horrors of chemical weapons. Successive administrations have determined that these…

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

We can't move forward if we can't get past the past. You have brought nothing to this conversation except being a troll. Nobody is saying that the USA is without fault.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Doesn’t the recent nomination of a guy like Eliott Abrams—by an ostensibly liberal administration—suggest that the U.S. has not gotten past its past?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Many of these things are still ongoing today, and many more (possibly all?) have never been apologized for or have even been denied. Why are you calling that the past?

If you stick a knife in my back nine inches and pull it out six inches, there's no progress. If you pull it all the way out that's not progress. Progress is healing the wound that the blow made. And they haven't even pulled the knife out much less heal the wound.

  • Malcolm X
[–] axtualdave -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Propose a solution to move forward.

[–] ZombieTheZombieCat 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't that what why we elect people? So they can do that for us

[–] axtualdave 2 points 1 year ago

What is "that"? The other person is mad things in the past, unrelated to the destruction of chemical weapons, are bad.

What would these politicians do? Invent time travel and change history?

How about moving forward, acknowledging the past, and trying to do things right... Like destroying chemical weapons stockpiles?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"You can't point out any problems unless you have a solution to them" is such a tired thought terminating cliché. I have plenty of ideas about solutions, but my contribution here is meaningful without me having to go to all of the trouble of explaining them all.

[–] axtualdave 3 points 1 year ago

Your contribution is nothing more than whataboutism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

At what date do you think the United States just stopped doing all that evil bad stuff and got its act together?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The point being made is that the present contains the past and there has been no attempt to break with the past. The CIA hacked into the state-owned computers of Congressional staffers who were writing up the report on torture findings and destroyed most of their report permanently. The CIA was ordered not destroy video evidence. The woman who then destroyed the evidence against court order was unpunished and she was appointed to oversee the case against the CIA hackers, who she absolved of any wrong doing.

It's literally not the past. The US is constantly and continuously doing these things.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

there is a saying I think you might consider

miss the forest for the trees

[–] CapitalismsRefugee 0 points 1 year ago

Is your statement meant to imply that one might miss the forest of US atrocities if one looks at every tree of genocide or civilian assassination or unjust imperial war as individual and unrelated incidents?