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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Yeah, I have a credit card that pays me back 5% cash on grocery store purchases. It would be stupid NOT to use it

Groceries + free money.

I'm reading this as a European and have questions... We all know that there is non free money. So, what's the business model? Making you use the card more by giving you "free" money and making the shops pay more to use the payment service, so that the shops then increase the prices, so that you pay the same as before (considering increased prices and cashback), but are now using the payment system a lot more?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

Few tricks.

  1. Card services actually get a small fee per transaction from the retailer so they just get paid every time you use their card which can add up.
  2. If you fail to pay off the balance for any reason they can charge generally a 20%+ compounding interest that for most people is probably closer to 27-30% and quickly replaces the minimal cash back.
  3. Spending habits and ability to sell the data to other card/loan providers and advertisers can help generate additional revenue. Think maybe you consider them trustworthy and they offer a car loan for $30,000 and you take it happily without looking around to find out they have a much higher interest rate on it and they get an extra couple grand from you.
[–] ShortFuse 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Interest rates if you don't pay off the full amount

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

making the shops pay more to use the payment service, so that the shops then increase the prices, so that you pay the same as before

Just nitpicking because I enjoy these thoughts:

When the shop increases prices, it has to do it for all the customers, including the ones without credit card. So a part of the cost is offloaded to other types of customers. While credit card customers should see a slight increase in price, it should not be as much as they saved previously. So still a net win for them, at the cost of others.

As others pointed out, the real scheme is probably entirely different.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

A lot of smaller businesses charge you extra for using the credit card or something similar.

The bigger businesses don’t do that.

[–] wolfpack86 3 points 5 months ago

Of course the bigger businesses do. it's rolled into operating costs and is reflected in their pricing.

You just don't end up with a different price differentiated by the transaction method.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Credit card companies make money off selling your spending habits to information brokers.

[–] Wogi 4 points 5 months ago

The business model is depending on card users accumulating interest. So they give you perks to get you to use the card and enough people won't pay it off every month that they'll make all their money back and more.