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Ahead of the European election, striking data shows where Gen Z and millennials’ allegiances lie.

Far-right parties are surging across Europe — and young voters are buying in. 

Many parties with anti-immigrant agendas are even seeing support from first-time young voters in the upcoming June 6-9 European Parliament election.

In Belgium, France, Portugal, Germany and Finland, younger voters are backing anti-immigration and anti-establishment parties in numbers equal to and even exceeding older voters, analyses of recent elections and research of young people’s political preferences suggest.

In the Netherlands, Geert Wilders’ anti-immigration far-right Freedom Party won the 2023 election on a campaign that tied affordable housing to restrictions on immigration — a focus that struck a chord with young voters. In Portugal, too, the far-right party Chega, which means “enough” in Portuguese, drew on young people’s frustration with the housing crisis, among other quality-of-life concerns. 

The analysis also points to a split: While young women often reported support for the Greens and other left-leaning parties, anti-migration parties did particularly well among young men. (Though there are some exceptions. See France, below, for example.)

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[–] AFKBRBChocolate 20 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The people who were - and still are - clowning on Americans for their politics are a different group than the people currently voting far right. You’re not dunking on the people you think you are.

But that's sort of the point they were making, isn't it? Left-leaning Europeans giving Americans across the spectrum shit for right-leaning politics even though the majority in all cases is slim and vulnerable to reversal?

[–] afraid_of_zombies 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Remember right before the last Italian election some Italian guy screaming at me how no one in the history of Europe was racist or right-wing. When I asked them afterwards about the election he said the CIA caused it.

Ok buddy. Italy has no history of fascism or racism. Nice to know.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I feel like a bad thing that happened to us started when, through science, we started finding more and more things that contradicted the bible, at the same time as some evangelical sects were pushing for a more and more literal interpretation of the bible, and so their only argument was that science is evil/blasphemous/whatever. So more and more people on the right got comfortable just disregarding scientists, facts, and information-driven conclusions. Instead, they just pick whatever narrative they're comfortable with and even a lot of people who disagree with it treat it like a legitimate belief.

We used to call those people nutjobs. Now we call them Fox news viewers.

[–] afraid_of_zombies 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You know this isn't new. People have always knew that there were problems with this book. Part of the reason why so many put corrections in it.

Bible literalism is a legacy of Luther. Once he rejected the church and it's teachings all he had was the Bible.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh, completely agree, but for the first two thirds of the 20th century, most Christians, like most people generally, were very pro science and took the bible as a book of lessons. It's only in the last several decades that such a huge percentage of Christians equate science as antithetical to Christianity.

[–] afraid_of_zombies 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Scopes Monkey Trial happened in 1925.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Solid point. Still, the prevailing attitude in the 40s and 50s was that science made things better, with perhaps a detour related to nuclear bombs/energy.

[–] afraid_of_zombies 2 points 6 months ago

Yeah techno-utopianism. The thing about this stuff is any civilization is going to be diverse but what gets preserved is not going to be. Which gives us all a slanted flat view of history.

You remember Asimov you don't remember the Beatniks. So your view becomes that prior to say the 60s every single person had utter faith in science making the world better and the key to understanding the universe.

Talk to any atheist about American free thought history and you get Thomas Jefferson, nothing, and then Madyln O'Hare.

Ok...what about Ingersoll, or Rand, or Twain, Bierce, or Madison, or H.L. Mencken? They don't exist. Everyone in that 200 year period had the same religions convictions exactly.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

This part

It beggars belief that the same people clowning on the US and UK would then turn around and say to themselves “yes, but it will be different for us, it will work for us, our situation really is different, you don’t understand”.

and this one

Before you click reply, just consider that you guys deserve to get fucking dunked on, because you guys spent decades laughing at other countries for doing this shit just to say “hmmm… but what if sticking the fork in the electrical socket works out for me?”

both imply the people laughing at other countries are the same group willing to "stick the fork in the electrical socket". They aren't.