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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Spock is the first or only Vulcan in Starfleet. The crew of the Intrepid would like a word.

These can be tough, since three generations of fans have worked on later shows or ancillary official materials. E.g. Startrek.com used to say that about Spock.

Lots about Klingon history: they stole warp tech from the hurq, the hurq (who came after Kahless and stole his relics) are the gods of ancient Klingon myth. Klingon warrior culture is a recent aberration (claims one lawyer whose parents were undervalued academics). Kahless lived a thousand years before TNG. That's only half the time since Surak or Charlemagne, but fans want to see him more like King Arthur or Robin Hood.

[–] pinwurm 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

T’Pol would be the first Vulcan in Starfleet, no?

She started off as Vulcan High Command but officially joins Starfleet later on in ENT.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

She joined the United Earth Starfleet, though. If someone wanted to get really pedantic, they could claim there's a possibility she resigned her commission before the transition to the Federation Starfleet.

But yeah, T'Pol, the senior staff of the USS Intrepid, the various admirals we've seen in Disco and SNW, all would have joined Starfleet before Spock.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

And when Enterprise did that, there were fans who insisted it was a retcon. It's something people beleived since TOS even though it was contradicted pretty soon after the Federation was even established.

There are several other things that fans have been certain of since the 60s (like saucer separation being irreversible in the field or Vulcans only having sex during Pon Farr) that weren't the production intention, but this one was blatantly impossible and it's very strange.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

E.g. Startrek.com used to say that about Spock.

Unfortunately, it still does.