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Fire up the inertial dampeners, retract all moorings and clear space dock. It's time to boldy go where no one has gone before!
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You're thinking of Star Trek V, which Shatner directed and is, indeed, a stinker of a film.
This is Star Trek IV- the one with the whales. Most people consider it one of the best Star Trek films despite its flaws.
star trek iv and v is what firmly cemented the idea that the even numbered trek films were better.
Although you wouldn't believe how many Star Trek V defenders I have met over the years. Which is why, I assume, Sybok got a mention in SNW.
How do they defend it?
I’m generally curious about what they liked about it and how they frame it.
I'll give it a go:
I like that it's about exploration. Even if it's Sybok forcing the expedition to begin with, Kirk does ultimately make the choice to go along with it. No other Trek movie is actually about seeking out a strange new world.
I like the shore leave scenes. I hear a lot of complaints about them, but I appreciate spending a little time with the our characters just being dysfunctional friends.
I like that it makes full use of DeForest Kelley. His "pain" scene is excellent, and his frequent exasperation with Kirk is sold very well throughout the film. Say what you will about Shatner's ego, but he gets that Kirk can be a petulant child at times, and needs McCoy to verbally smack some sense into him, as in the brig scene.
For that matter, I like Kirk's pain speech. A little sermonising, maybe, but that's Trek for you. It works well enough considering that two films ago this man was forced to abandon his estranged son's corpse on an exploding planet. Insisting on holding on to that pain is substantial, but very Kirk.
I enjoy the entire meeting with God. A little goofy, but terrifically quotable.
I do see plenty of faults. A lot of the humour doesn't land. Introducing our new hero ship as a piece of junk is immediately off-putting. The Scotty/Uhura pairing comes out of nowhere and ultimately goes nowhere. The ground assault sequence was disappointingly underwhelming. The effects are weak af, and if I saw it on release in theatres I'd probably feel pretty sour towards the apparent trajectory of the series towards something that felt more direct-to-video.
But I never have a bad time watching it. The good outweighs the bad for me.
These are all fair points. I might give it another shot, but my first watch was rather rough.
Yeah, I'm clearly in the minority, and I might just be too forgiving of the TOS era movies. I'm certainly not as inclined to give a break to Insurrection or Nemesis. But if you do give it another chance, I hope you enjoy it a bit more this time!
A lot of them like the religious criticism (which I think is heavily watered down by that alien not being the mythical god of either Vulcan or Earth), they liked the idea of a Vulcan pro-emotions cult, and I'm sure some of them like pew pew space battle with the Klingons.
Yep... sorry about that. Early morning brain took over.
Happens to the best of us. The fact that there are six TOS movies alone doesn't help.