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Musk has consistently proven himself to be a driving force behind the sustained success of every company under his leadership. Disparaging attitudes towards Elon seem to follow popular opinion rather than fact. While there's plenty of justifiable criticism, the points frequently echoed here don't contribute meaningfully to constructive discourse.
Edit: The prevalence of downvotes simply underscores my argument. How does this platform distinguish itself from Reddit, when it harbors a similar degree of negativity and concerted downvoting targeted at individuals participating in earnest conversation?
Honestly though who gives a shit about Musk though? Do you personally admire him? He’s a rich guy that is good at managing, if that’s something to admire then I understand your comment, otherwise it’s just ball riding
About that, have you seen twitter lately?
It seems like his best management decisions have been to not touch anything.
Lol it is pretty funny, Twitter is a garbage can anyway so it’s got the right guy at the helm
But the person I replied to does have a point he has been good at what he’s got involved with minus twitter I’m just curious if that makes him admirable to that person
when you are rich you can afford to fail more often
If you've followed Musk for some time you'd know there is a lot of noise around whatever he does. The Twitter saga is far from over and we don't really know what the outcome will be for quite some time. It took Tesla 10 years to prove people wrong. Is Elon a saint? No. But he is good at letting the right people work toward a vision of the future that he sees possible.
I just find the amount of hate a bit ridiculous.
Okay that’s fair enough, do you actually admire him? That’s what I’m curious about
I don't admire his tweets or latest shenanigans, but I do admire his work in engineering and AI. In those specific fields, he is quite the visionary, knowing how to position the right people in the right places with a clear future goal in mind. More often than not, his foresight proves accurate. Specific examples of the engineering decisions and designs manifested in SpaceX or Tesla include innovations such as the Octovalve, Gigacasting, FSD computer, the reusability of Falcon 9 with landings, Merlin and Raptor rocket engines, and the general software architecture in Tesla cars. The list goes on for technology enthusiasts like me.
You don't have to appreciate everything about him — I certainly don't — but as someone who loves technology, I can't help but recognize how his vision has propelled America further into the future.
Part of me wishes he had delved into nuclear science to solve fusion instead of purchasing Twitter. Perhaps, though, he's past his prime.
So basically more a fan of his work, makes sense
Thanks for taking the time to understand my side of the argument.
Ya of course that’s why we all should be here, I dislike him but that doesn’t mean if you do I can’t talk to you or hear your side of things, that mentality is why we are in this current shitstain of a culture war
Someone else here, but eh.. ..he's ok. Like any human, he had some decent qualities and some crappy ones.
People with obvious power show their flaws obviously, but nobody's really fit to replace them, either. What you mostly get is 'If i was rich, I would...' ..but the reality is, most of those people would cave, and the institutions they led would either fall apart or become rudderless and decay.
Some people lead, and they do it until they crack, then they start to fall apart and others take over. Other people bitch, and shove wedges in the cracks and say 'we all knew he was an asshole all along!' then elevate someone else that they'll tear down later.
The leaders are by no means golden, but they aren't worse than the raise-up tear-down crowd, that's for sure.
You're mistaking deserved scorn and ridicule for hate, a common tactic amongst people trying to defend ridiculous people.
Pssst. People here don’t like white supremacist Nazi promoters.
Spouting absolute horseshit and then declaring that people not liking it is proof that you're right is exactly what Alex Jones does. Please be better than Alex fucking Jones.
Yeah, the reddit hate train is here. Choo Choo! We can't hang people anymore because that's not PC, but we sure as hell still have the hate for it! Let's worship people one day and then burn them the next, blaming our disillusionment on someone else rather than on our own illusions!
Salty Elon anti-simps are everywhere and will always downvote things. That isn't really this platform's fault.
Big differences between reddit and here are:
Those are all great reasons for using Lemmy instead. Oh, plus the relative privacy.
I think this is the most reasonable take on musk that I have seen in a long time.
Thanks.