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Are there any EV cars without any "technology"? (lemm.ee)

submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Like the title says, are there any EVs that just have a Bluetooth radio and that's it? Like a normal car, not a smartphone on wheels? If not, do you all think that this will actually happen at some point? This is the main reason why I can't (and will never) buy an EV. I like to have actual buttons everywhere on my car. I think those massive tablets on these cars with all the touch buttons are very dangerous. I like an "entertainment system" that only connects to my phone with either a headphone jack ~~of~~ or Bluetooth. It's a car, not a PC.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

How does it connect to the Internet if you never connect your phone to it? Do they have their own network?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yes, most cars have had their own data connection for a while now. If I know correctly, it's a requirement for Europe since you have to put that button to call emergency services in the car, so it has to have a GSM module, so effectively it has to have mobile data.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So, forced data collection. Wow

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well technically GDPR applies, but who knows if any cars are actually compliant.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I know of a story where a judge actually said that car makers are within their rights to collect your data as long as there is no harm done. Loius Rossmann made a video about it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

On one side, what the fuck, that's not how it's supposed to work. On the other side, at least precedent doesn't mean much in the EU.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

FWIW the EU's eCall system doesn't actually require a GSM module in the car; it's enough to use a phone connected to the Bluetooth handsfree kit.. That said, since most manufacturers already have the module for data-harvesting anyway it's kind of moot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

On star is one of those networks. There should be info in the owners manual on which fuse it goes to so you can pull it and disable it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

That's actually good to know. Thank you