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[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

At a quick, manual count the roman catholic church has canonized about 40 new saints since 2000. Not all those other fuckers are in the distant past ;-)

I hear you, but I still think that the idea of the church and saints hasn't gotten any worse: it's "just" that the rest of the world has moved on when they haven't (which is basically their founding principle).

Or put differently: saints haven't gotten stupider, but our standards have changed.

Edit: I have to put my own point into relation: the only saints that actually lived in the 21st century from that list seem to be a pope and 21 IS beheading victims, so yeah, even among those recently canonized saints a huge chunk has bean dead for 100+ years.

[–] Viking_Hippie 8 points 6 months ago

I still think that the idea of the church and saints hasn't gotten any worse: it's "just" that the rest of the world has moved on when they haven't

That's a very common way of an idea becoming worse: insisting on the same old delusion as the rest of the world moves on.

Example: A geocentric universe didn't seem like such a stupid idea a millennium or two ago, but nowadays where we know better, it's known to be absolute nonsense that only the blindest fundamentalist honestly believes.