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Are there any EV cars without any "technology"? (lemm.ee)

submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Like the title says, are there any EVs that just have a Bluetooth radio and that's it? Like a normal car, not a smartphone on wheels? If not, do you all think that this will actually happen at some point? This is the main reason why I can't (and will never) buy an EV. I like to have actual buttons everywhere on my car. I think those massive tablets on these cars with all the touch buttons are very dangerous. I like an "entertainment system" that only connects to my phone with either a headphone jack ~~of~~ or Bluetooth. It's a car, not a PC.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Are they're any evs built with OpenSource in mind? Like its honestly cool that you can more closely control how they drive because it electronically controlled but tech enshitification makes most the stuff I've seen always tainted by it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Tesla is built on top of Ubuntu with their own closed source spin. But yeah, that would be amazing if we had a completely FOSS system on some cars. I'd be willing to pay extra for it. Fuck, man. Shit is getting out of hands.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wait, they're closed-sourcing Ubuntu? Doesn't the GPL say that any fork or derivative of any GPL'd product has to have the GPL? It's supposed to propagate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They were until they got in trouble a couple of years back for not contributing shit back. I think they have an "android" approach where they have their own shit running on top of Ubuntu now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

That explains... some

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I don't know actually. I'm sure there are open attempts to convert cars to electric. But if you mean something like level 1-3 autonomy, I would assume it would have to be approved by a regulating body, and I don't think any open projects would have seeked that level of approval yet. It's one thing for someone to root their phone and their camera doesn't work, it's another if they root their car and cause an accident.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's not a full car or even entertainment system, but comma.ai is an opensource autonomous driving software. Last time I looked into this was a few years ago, but basically for most newer cars you can rip out the adaptive cruise control, and effevtively replace it with autonomous driving. Either powered by certain supported phones or dedicated hardware.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Comma is super exciting for the driving assistance parts!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Open source is good for distributed projects. But because of economies of scale, remotely economical car manufacturing will always be centralized. That power gradient would make open source very difficult.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I guess I see potential as systems become more digital that they have more potential to be interchangeable. Kind like how computers hardware is.