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[–] joneskind 37 points 7 months ago (3 children)

A few years ago (already) I would have been sad and shocked. Now I don't give a shit about SpaceTwitter. That douchebag managed to kill all the interest I had for space exploration, a topic I was passionate about for most of my life. He really is that kind of killjoy.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Why would you let that ruin all of space exploration for you? He's a dick. I don't give a crap about his company. But exploring the solar system is still absolutely amazing.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The people on lemmy are college kid level extremist on literally everything and it would be funnier if it weren't so exhausting.

[–] shalafi 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

college kid level extremist on literally everything

It's really wearing me out on this platform.

I'm stealing that quote BTW. You can't stop me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah this is too accurate LMAO. I use Arch btw.

[–] Buffalox 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Maybe he lost interest because of all the bullshit Elon Musk promised that came to NOTHING, remember a few years back he promised there would be manned missions to Mars now... NOW!!! MANNED MISSIONS!!! They were supposed to be well along building a base on Mars that should have started 2 years ago!!

Reality may seem kind of dull compared to the fantasies Musk promised.

Personally I never believed Musk for a second, and I thought Neil Tyson was a blabbering idiot for parroting him. But many fell for it, and my wife thought I was "negative" for not believing and agreeing with them!

But things like the James Webb telescope are 100% cool.

[–] joneskind 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Well, before SpaceX I looked at the space exploration program as a science enthusiast. The missions were rare but important for science. Then this dude came out of nowhere, saying he was about to save the Earth with electric cars and build a station on Mars. And for a moment it really worked. I genuinely thought he was a good billionaire. Then he completely loose his mind, start talking and acting like the worse moron of the universe, and I started studying his statements without the shiny distorting layer. He's so full of shit it makes me sick. Most of the things he says is nonsense.

So I can't tell why my brain works that way, but it does. Today I'm more exited by new ways to produce renewable energies on Earth than I am about rockets. That joy I felt for any SpaceX news slipped away.

My comment was just the realization of that. That was weird to be honest, but true.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But hating people is more important than accomplishing stuff, isn't it?

[–] Buffalox 19 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Elon Musk promised manned missions to Mars by now, and the beginning of building a base should have started already 2 years ago.

There are many good reasons to hate Musk, he is a liar and a con man.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

SpaceX is still making tremendous progress compared to NASA. I'm as annoyed with Musk as everyone else, but it's looking like they're the biggest hope we have right now of actually making progress with space exploration.

[–] Buffalox 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

But are they really making progress? NASA has pured billions into SpaceX, are they really getting what they were promised? AFAIK the answer to that is No-No-No and No, because they are so far behind, and haven't met any requirements for what SpaceX was supposed to do for the NASA manned moon mission Artemis.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is focused more on NASA's problems with the Artemis program, but I highly recommend reading this article.

Basically the whole Artemis mission plan is riddled with issues, and SpaceX and Blue Origin are required to have major breakthroughs in space refueling tech for their required roles to even be possible. With how many different issues the project has, it looks like the only good thing we may get out of the project is these breakthroughs (if they happen).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

@Fubarberry @Buffalox "Smarter Every Day" on Youtube did a talk pointing out the issues with artemis, to a room full of stakeholders.

it was glorious.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

SpaceX launched the biggest rocket every to be launched in history, three times at this point, and you're questioning whether they're "making progress?"

As I said, you've prioritized hating Elon Musk over everything else.

[–] jo3jo3 -4 points 7 months ago

It's yes yes yes yes. You couldn't he more wrong.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you think he's a liar and a con man, then why even bring up his promises? They're obviously false. SpaceX has done great work despite who their current CEO is.

[–] Buffalox 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

He was saying several years ago that he would be start building a Mars base in 2022 and have manned missions in 2024 which are both basically no closer today than they were then, that was a lie.
He said he would build hyperloops that would be cheap fast efficient across the country, that was a lie, that we now know was to stop building public transport.
He said in 2016 that full self driving that was safer than a person driving would be ready in 2017, and that was something they could do TODAY (in 2016). He repeated that lie in 2019, even claiming people could make up to $200000 per year if they bought a Tesla, because they could drive as autonomous taxi's beginning 2020. He claimed buying anything other than a Tesla would be stupid, because Tesla cars were the only ones that could do that. Except they couldn't and they still can't.

There is a very clear picture that Elon Musk is lying through his teeth, and he cons people into investing in and buying his products under false pretenses.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Okay? I thought we already established that he's a liar. You really sound like a fan of the guy since you follow his every word, but none of this detracts from the accomplishments of the engineers working at these companies.

[–] BradleyUffner 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I know how you feel I used to love watching all the SpaceX launches, but I just can't bring myself to care anymore about anything Musk is involved in.

[–] jo3jo3 5 points 7 months ago

Sad to be you. Starship is super exciting

[–] undyingarchie -2 points 7 months ago

Wow talk about blaming someone else for your waning interest. If you were really into space exploration, you wouldn’t let one person come in the way. A person who doesn’t even know you. Or you don’t know either technically. I’m no Elon shill and I dislike him like everyone else. But I’ll be damned if I lose interest in space just because of him. Even if the whole world was a douchebag, I’d still get out telescoping equipment and gaze at the skies. And oh by the way, if not for SpaceX do it for NASA who were there way before anyone else. Do it for your ancestors who looked at the sky in amazement every night.