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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world. About 1C of total warming. Second chart: about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability. Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases. About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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We're Taking Civil Disobedience to End Fossil Fuels. Will You Join Us? | Asking people to engage in nonviolent direct action isn’t something we do lightly. But it is something we must do. (www.commondreams.org)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That doesn't define every climate movement though, and anyone suggesting it does is acting in bad faith and undermining the entire concept of nonviolent civil disobedience. It's dumb, sure, kids do lots of dumb stuff but I wouldn't even call it counterproductive. It sure got people talking and raised awareness, and now the groups tactics have evolved. Anyone that magically ignores the climate catastrophe because someone threw soup at the bulletproof glass covering the Mona Lisa wasn't actually going to do anything to further the cause anyway. Why not focus your energy on something more productive than shitting on some trivial event that happened awhile back?

[–] homesweethomeMrL -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It sure got people talking and raised awareness, and now the groups tactics have evolved.

One would hope their tactics evolved, the awareness of it being incredibly stupid is what people were talking about.

Public demonstrations are not new. Lessons learned are abundant. Changes in technology are new and that’s what could be useful but making a spectacle and preventing people from going home is not the best avenue, so to speak.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The post is about an upcoming movement that's vague on specifics, other than they are focusing on Citibank and trying to limit disruption for regulars. It hasn't even happened yet, but you and others here are already shitting on it. That's the issue I have with the criticisms here.

[–] homesweethomeMrL -2 points 6 months ago

Oh, sorry, no didn’t mean to shit on a specific thing, just saying there’s good ways to do it and bad ways to do it and some of the sort-of recent ones were obviously bad.