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[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago

already went over "how the Biden administration is handling the situation", in which the numbers are even.

I think I disputed your interpretation of that data.

This point was specifically brought up, separately, as approval military aid, which yields a different answer

No I was utilizing that information to prove that your argument was semantic in nature.

You can say that's dumb, and it is, but that's democracy. People don't always have consistent opinions.

Lol, yes democracy is all about silencing your constituents..... This whole argument started over the validity of criticizing the president. You have done nothing but try to refute that in the most "enlightened centerist" way possible.

In any case, while I still have doubts as to whether it would be an electoral advantage for Biden to change positions, I'm more hopeful about it.

Ahh yes, electoral advantage is surely the only reasoning we should utilize when deciding if genocide is an appropriate foreign policy....

I'm in support of him changing positions anyway, under the justification that if it's "Damned if you do, damned if you don't, might as well at least be damned with the moral choice and not the immoral one"

And yet, you still aid people spreading propaganda that implores people to science criticism. Sure.

it's not as simple as "Biden does this ONE THING and he WINS", especially since Gaza in particular and foreign affairs in general rate low on voter's concerns this electoral cycle.

I never made any claim close to that? You can fight your own straw man all by yourself.

It would make sense to protest against it even if a plurality didn't disagree. It's a citizen's duty to protest, even if they're the only one who disagrees.

Okay, then what is the point of your pedantic rebuttal?

Because a lot of people on here are continuously repeating 'Biden bad' on every issue, or redirecting every issue to Gaza, and then pushing "VOTE THIRD PARTY" or "DON'T VOTE" or "DEMS AND REPUBLICANS ARE JUST THE SAME", and those of us who are in line for the camps under a Trump presidency find this, at best incredibly privileged, and at worst, actively destructive, viewpoint as just a mite concerning

And did I make any of those claims? Or are you just conflating all criticism as such?

Before it was Gaza, it was unions on here - by the rhetoric of many of the same players who are beating the Gaza drum on Lemmy now, you'd've thought Biden was the worst union-buster in US history, instead of a moderately-pro-Union president who's been better for labor than any other administration in probably a good half-century.

Again, I didn't make any of those claims. Maybe people are driven to this level of criticism because they feel centerist are trying to mute all criticism from within the constituency?

And if the Gaza genocide ceases to call people's attention before the election, they'll move onto something else.

Lol, you talk about a genocide as if it's a frivolous complaint and you call other people privileged?

Man, I'm not against the protests. I'm fully in support of them.

So you're for the protest, but against people voicing their opinions on Lemmy? You have just spent several paragraphs equating the criticism against genocide as just a distraction for the election cycle.....but you support it?

Congrats on being the most "enlightened centerist" I've come across on Lemmy.

I only hope that one day you muster up enough empathy to lose sleep over stating " if the Gaza genocide ceases to call people's attention before the election, they'll move onto something else. "

Go kick rocks