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  1. We're trying to improving working conditions and pay.

  2. We're trying to reduce the numbers of hours a person has to work.

  3. We talk about the end of paid work being mandatory for survival.

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[–] PopOfAfrica 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Work as capitalism defines it is alienating. I am very much against unfulfilling drudgery.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Most of us are, including me. Chase your bliss - I truly hope you find it:-).

But please, don't make other people into your bitch.

Your choice is one thing, but why force others to do your work for you? Read the OP again in case you missed it: in addition to living like a king and eating Doritos, it also says "while other people do all the hard work" - the keyword there is people, as in human beings, not robots.

If, as you claim, you are "very much against unfulfilling drudgery", then why would you support having others do that work for you?

And maybe that's not what you meant, so it's all good and we are in agreement. But it kinda sounded like the opposite, and you were against work only when you might have to do it, and thus by implication perhaps for work so long as it is others who end up doing it? So I just wanted to make sure that I did not leave that unsaid.

You do you, that's great, so long as you allow the same of others. That's all I'm saying.

[–] PopOfAfrica 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Listen, I'm from the rural south. We do basically everything ourselves. If a toilet needs repaired, we fix it. If the road needs to be graveled in in the potholes, we fix it.

Nobody is asking to do no work. They're just tired of doing work at the behest of the capitalist class. The problem is that work is both an adjective and a noun. Nobody likes the noun.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

The OP graphic literally already distinguished between these two classes. The second one is the "work" you mentioned - we all seem to agree on that part - while the first one is the "sit on your fat, lazy ass while forcing others to do all the work for you". I hoped that most people here would agree that outright blatant slavery is wrong, but based on a lot of comments here, unfortunately I see that that assumption on my part was wrong. Mea culpa. !antiwork[email protected] is oddly pro-slavery I now understand.

Also, you seem to be arguing for literally all of the sides of this, literally all at once. "We do basically everything ourselves" = "we do the work"... as we... both are saying? Except "Nobody likes the noun", except I guess when everyone in the South does it, and me too.

Btw, every single nation on Earth has a "south" - from your username, am I to assume that you are from South Africa?

Listen,

Wow, starting the conversation with that right off the bat, huh? :-P