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RFK is a skid mark on the Kennedy name. He knowingly snake-oiled ivermectin, counter to the data and extreme majority of medical professsionals. Don’t pretend it was an “oopsie- he was told the wrong thing!” That’s super disingenuous.
He’s not even a good snake oil salesman. If you honestly believe the shit you used to defend him, I have some tickets to heaven I can get you for a killer discount lmao
Ok for sure the ivermectin thing wasn't smart. But it was the only alternative to the vaccine being talked about at the time. While that was a mistake, he does have a good point about pharmaceutical companies pushing out the COVID vaccines very quickly and making as killing in profits. Many people have reported serious permanent side effect to those vaccines. Maybe there should've been a bit more quality assurance or more tests to ensure there wouldn't be any problems. Then again, it was in a period where the vaccine was absolutely necessary and as soon as possible. So... Yeah. We didn't really have a choice.
It was not. It was a flight of utter fancy. It was a fiction.
He does not. No one got rich off of the COVID-19 vaccines. In fact, vaccines in general are not a cash cow for the pharmaceutical industry. I'm not saying the industry is populated by good people—lol nope—but if you follow the money it doesn't go far because there isn't much of it. They get the good PR from selling vaccines, and then they make money from ED pills and such.
No they haven't. And don't try to toss VAERS data at me; it'll just prove that you don't know what that database is. In reality the side effects from the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines are almost miraculously low—somewhat lower than the industry standard in terms of occurrences, and much lower than the industry standard in terms of severity. Most importantly, though, they were dramatically lower than just catching the disease.
mRNA vaccines have been in development since 1993. The pharmaceutical industry wasn't pushing it because traditional vaccines were good enough (read: cheaper) between 1993-2020, but the R&D was consistent for that time.
We definitely did need the speed of mRNA in vitro transcription vaccines at the height of the pandemic. But it's not like this was a "second-best" option, or a case where we were settling for something.
I implore you, get your medical information from reliable sources.
Ok. You make very good arguments. And I do believe that you are correct. But just one thing though, yes there has been reports of people having some bad permanent side effects after taking the COVID vaccine, but as you mentioned, r those were indeed very low in occurrences. I've read somewhere that it was lower than the occurrence of bad permanent side effects in contraceptive pills for women for example.
You said "many." That is definitively false.
You are perpetuating dangerous lies in an attempt to defend a horrible liar. You need to REALLY consider why the fuck you do that. Educate yourself before spewing that nonsense.
Honestly don't even need to point out the liar part
Just point out that he has brain damage from a worm literally eating his brain. He could have made all the right choices and that still makes him a horrible person to put in charge just from a mental acuity angle
He was a hack long before the brain worm. The worm thing is absolutely pertinent and you are correct that should preclude him from any serious run, but he’s been selling snake oil for a looooong time and has many reasons beyond mere medical stuff that should top the list of why he’s a piece of shit leader.
I'm not trying to perpetuate lies. I want to have a discussion about that candidate and hear what other people have to say.
I don’t know what to tell you if you need to have a discussion about a grifter. To take him seriously, you have to pretty seriously have zero knowledge about what he lies about. If that’s the case, perhaps you should be researching the topic with a reputable source instead of playing devils advocate for a lying POS.
You have to be utterly stupid or willfully ignorant to A) take him seriously B) ignore the fact that his claims were, to an extreme degree, publicly refuted.
But sure, tell me more how you expect us to seriously discuss the merits of Mr. Brain Worm.
I am pretty ignorant about the guy. Not gonna lie. I only recently started checking him out because I learned Woody Harrelson supports him. I guess I haven't checked enough good sources about him though.
If you’re ignorant about the guy, maybe try not playing devils advocate and spreading his lies. Do some basic research before muddying discourse and looking like a knob.
Hey look, I just happened to read some things about the guy that put him in a good light and he appeared to be a pretty decent guy. And Woody Harrelson was supporting him and had contributed in making a video debunking all the crazy things said about him.
It's not my fault if I just happened to stumble on information that was favorable towards RFK and happened to learn about his existence through those.
God damn.
If you think it’s reasonable to play devil’s advocate for someone you don’t know (with a proven shitty track record) based on some fluff propaganda, then you are a great example of how disinformation campaigns work.
You are the prime kind of mark they make misinformation for, because you’ll do zero to educate yourself beyond watching some YouTube video before you start doing exactly what you’ve done here.
Step 1: Intake propaganda Step 2: Take propaganda at face value Step 3: repeat propaganda ad nauseam Step 4: claim ignorance when called out Repeat
Will you please back the fuck off???
I get it. You hate RFK and according to you, anyone who defends the guy is a complete moron.
If you think I was a victim of propaganda, then just say so and point me in the right direction. You don't have to be so god damn rude about it.
I don’t hate him. I just have the common sense to not buy his snake oil. And yes, I’ll judge anyone who defends his obvious snake oil.
I don’t think you’re a victim. I think you’re absolutely complicit in perpetuating his lies at this point. You had every opportunity to educate yourself, yet you opted not to and instead argued for him and his lies in the public forum. There will always be assholes, and those that spread the asshole’s shit around.
You have choices. You made a poor one going to bat for him. And yeah, I’m not going to sugarcoat anything when it comes to fascism. Sorry if that hurts your feelings 🤷♂️
At this point you're just harassing me. I've had enough
The two methods that could have saved you from mistakenly conflating me calling out misinformation for harassment (seems pretty par-for-the course for an RFK defender) is by not replying or just blocking me.
And all this could have been avoided if you looked him up for a moment before coming to the defense of his lies.