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[–] Rolando 13 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I've only read two books of Le Guin's, and they were both memorable:

The second one is more relevant to this meme.

[–] TSG_Asmodeus 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Absolutely 100% run (don't walk!) and get The Left Hand of Darkness. It is easily one of the best sci-fi/fantasy books I have ever read.

[–] Subverb 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I just finished it two days ago. I agree completely.

I will caution people that because of the writing style the beginning of the book (at least to me) is a bit disorienting. It takes a minute to find her rhythm.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

The Dispossessed had been in my backlog for a while now. I really need to get to it.

[–] Subverb 2 points 1 month ago

Funny this cropped up, I just finished The Left Hand of Darkness two days ago. Very good book with some beautiful prose.

It was the first Le Guin book I've read. I'll be reading more.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I just finished the dispossessed. Didn't find it as compelling as reviews had me hoping. The sci-fi depiction of anarchism wasn't flattering and the main character wasn't easy to like either.

Spoiler and trigger alert: I put the book down for a while after he sexually assaulted a woman, but eventually finished it and wasn't impressed by the ending or by the fact that his assault was glossed over and not mentioned again.

[–] Rolando 3 points 1 month ago

Yes, that's a fair assessment. It's not an enjoyable book and to some extent isn't meant to be -- the cover of the version I read said something about an "ambiguous utopia," the story structure is pretty far from a Campbellian Hero's Journey, and the main character is not relatable. The book is more memorable than enjoyable.