RealTesla

Over at /r/RealTesla, this topic got some buzz. Just your ordinary, every-day "Tesla isn't a stealership" crap going on here.

Of course Tesla isn't a stealership. If someone did high-pressure sales tactics to me, I walk out the door and buy the car from the next Dealership in town. If Tesla does it to me... what's my options here? All service centers / delivery centers are part of the same network. They'll know I walked out on a Tesla delivery and I don't have any negotiation room.

This wccftech article is pretty loose and doesn't provide much citations. I also have a very low opinion of wccftech.

But I'm also asking if anyone has more links and/or data to this story? Most people at RealTesla knows that Starlink satellites are at a low orbit, so there's a high chance that they fall out of the sky (and they are expected to fall out of the sky on a regular basis). But hopefully this can be the start of a good discussion backed with more legitimate sources.

EDIT: The focus should be on the following paragraph:

It shows that as of July 15, 353 Starlink satellites had burnt up in the atmosphere, and this figure jumped by more than 200 spacecraft to 568 satellites as of the latest readings. As a comparison, only 248 satellites had burned up at the start of this year, so the number destroyed during the last two months is higher than the figure for the first seven months of the year.

A pretty simple Tesla autopilot crash. Obviously going bad here, but still crazy to me that Tesla fans are actively testing (and crashing) on autopilot like this.

A good reminder that Tesla cars have difficult to use doors.

As Ukrainian submarine drones strapped with explosives approached the Russian fleet, they “lost connectivity and washed ashore harmlessly,” Isaacson writes.

This sounds like treason to me. This needs to be investigated, we can't have a private citizen fucking the Ukrainians like this.

EDIT: Musk admits to it: https://sh.itjust.works/post/4649482

Original Topic here: https://lemmy.world/post/4510096

Original Image Post here:

Alas, the original topic is both a Rule5 and Rule8 violation. But the "original article" is absolutely worth a topic. I know yall were doing it in the right spirits of things, but I'm cautiously looking forward to when less like-minded folk come around to the discussion. Its best if we try to keep the discussion elevated, even amongst ourselves / before any drama happens.

An interesting perspective from one commenter:

Last year I had the opposite problem! Ended up stranded on a motorway less than 2 miles from home in a Tesla Model X. The Supercharger I'd planned on using was down due to a regional power outage, and even though the dash indicated I'd make it, the charge vanished quicker than I'd expected.

It was a cold night, which probably didn't help with the battery drain. Had to pull over on an uphill incline and activated "tow mode" just before the car's display went off, as i'd worried they wouldn't be able to move the car. However, this meant I had to keep my food on the brake pedal to stop it rolling backwards and it's surprisingly tough to keep the car stationary on a slope with a brake pedal that's no longer power-assisted.

Ended up waiting a good hour and a half for recovery, foot stuck on this heavy brake the whole time. It's moments like these you really miss a manual handbrake. High-tech is all well and good until you're left stuck on the side of the motorway, in the cold winter.

This got over 300+ upvotes on [email protected], so I figure it deserves to be mirrored here. But feel free to look at the other topic: https://lemmy.world/post/4392892

EDIT: Hacker News also has a topic on this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37373182

I'm thinking that monthly is about the right pace for this community.

Anything that feels significantly off topic, feel free to post here. Tesla is the focus of this community.

Twitter, SpaceX, and other Elon Musk behavior is mildly on-topic, but I'll delete and/or lock topics if we fill up with "too much" Twitter/SpaceX talk (to my subjective preferences). But feel free to make a topic if you're not sure.

Not much else to say here.

Youtube video available of the Firefighters showering the battery with water after the fire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqRIf4uP1W8

Lithium Ion batteries are dangerous chemistries that are "protected" by electronic computers soldered onto the batteries to keep an eye on voltage/temperature/etc. etc. But in extreme circumstances (such as flooding, or great impacts, etc. etc.), there's nothing that computer can do to prevent an explosive result. Once a Li-ion catches on fire, the electrolyte is itself explosively flammable, and things get out of hand very quickly.

These sorts of events will be common as Teslas (and electric cars) exist within catastrophic zones. This explosive reaction is larger, faster, and more dangerous than even gasoline fires. Doubly so with the "Electric Locks stop working" issue in Teslas (and since manual releases are so difficult for so many people to figure out, many people have already died by getting locked into a Tesla electrical fire).

Fortunately, no one was hurt during this particular incident. But it is a good reminder of the dangers of this particular chemistry.

Solid State Batteries are likely the next advancement that can hamper explosive results like this. So I think EVs have a way to fix this problem in the long term. But today, with today's level of technology, we have to keep this explosion risk in mind.

Big disengagement at the ~20 minute mark where the car tries to accelerate into incoming traffic. Etc. etc.

Basically, standard FSD crap but Elon Musk is behind the wheel and personally trying to sell the feature.

An update on the launchpad destruction.

ESGHound did a lot of fine work here, but the mainstream press is beginning to notice how awful SpaceX's environmental situation is in that Boca Chica area.

You can bypass the paywall with archive.is: https://archive.is/Yeazz

Just a timeline of things that Elon Musk has said on FSD starting in 2014. Good to have a reference.

A bunch of financial news / summaries for the past couple of months here.

TL;DR? Stock price down, inventories up.

Discussions elsewhere:

• Hacker News: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37224609

• [email protected]: https://lemmy.world/post/3622044

The TL;DR:

"Tesla requested redaction of fields of the crash report based on a claim that those fields contained confidential business information," an NHTSA spokesperson told Insider in a statement. "The Vehicle Safety Act explicitly restricts NHTSA's ability to release what the companies label as confidential information. Once any company claims confidentiality, NHTSA is legally obligated to treat it as confidential unless/until NHTSA goes through a legal process to deny the claim."

The difficult manual-unlock procedure of Teslas has been well known and well documented by the RealTesla community for years.

Still nice to see more mainstream webpages talking about the ridiculous manual-release lever design of Tesla cars.

This is a Hacker News -> Reddit/r/RealTesla post.

Good to see the "original" RealTesla getting such large attention. Over on the Reddit, there's over 3000+ upvotes, while most of the discussion on Hacker News is supportive of the story.

While Hacker News has [flagged] the story (thereby removing it from the frontpage), it shows that even in the high-tech industry / San Francisco venture capitalism tech-discussion site, Elon Musk's reputation has really nosedived this year.

An investigation found that Tesla’s Fremont, California, plant had three times as many Occupational Safety and Health Administration safety violations as 10 other US car factories combined. Injuries were higher than the national average, and training was shorter. And Tesla was found to have repeatedly misclassified and underreported injuries at its facilities in California and Nevada.

This isn't "hardcore" or whatever Elon wanted to call it. This is just simply worker abuse and is dangerous. Literally built upon the blood and bones of your workers. We stopped doing this a century ago because no amount of money is worth the loss of limb. Safety standards are an important part of work/life balance.

Look at this .csv file from the NHTSA regarding safety incident reports given to the offical US Government.

There's... a lot more Tesla in here than you might expect. A whole lot more. I'm guessing "Autopilot" doesn't work quite as well as some expect.

Looks like the file came from here: https://www.nhtsa.gov/laws-regulations/standing-general-order-crash-reporting

Posters at Hacker News discovered this: Twitter is purposefully making some links slow. Anything going to New York Times (or other webpages that Elon Musk doesn't like) has a 5-second delay right now.